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USNFDX 05-19-2007 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Black Meatball (Post 167942)
Well hopefully the over 60 Capts will buy my beer! I've had one Capt buy me a beer on my 1st year!

Maybe it's just you ;) I have had numerous Capts buy beer and dinner. And not just during my first year. Alot great guys out there. A few butheads!

Thanks again to all the guys that buy the beer! :)

HazCan 05-19-2007 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by MEMA300 (Post 168042)
Bet it was a tiger guy.

No doubt. Tiger guys are great about that tradition. I will pass it on when it's my turn.

A300_Driver 05-19-2007 03:17 PM

I don't agree with everything DW said, but I'll give him credit for making a compelling argument for this retrospectivity eyesore.
He needed to do this a while ago--when he got on his retrospectivity horse--but better late than never!

FDXLAG 05-19-2007 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by Albief15 (Post 168032)
I'm afraid my last post sounded angry or defeatist. That wasn't the intent. I just think we GAVE AWAY a nice perk of this career--the ability to walk away at 60. The justification for the B-fund is now suspect. What will we have to give away to keep it?

Albie,

Of all the arguments against age 60, loss of B Fund has the least merit. I can not think of a scenario where Fred will be able to quit paying us the 6-7% that we have negotiated as part of our compensation. Tax wise there are enough loopholes to keep this deferred if you desire.

fdxmd11fo 05-19-2007 07:08 PM

If DW wants unity I think he should step down as our MEC rep. IMHO that would go a long way at repairing the damage done to our unity

Black Meatball 05-19-2007 09:49 PM

Maybe it's just you ;) I have had numerous Capts buy beer and dinner. And not just during my first year. Alot great guys out there. A few butheads!

Thanks again to all the guys that buy the beer! :)

Maybe it's the amount of beer I order? Oh well....a 12 pack of Schafer in a motel in SHV watching reruns of Simon & Simon is fine with me:D

Black Meatball 05-19-2007 09:51 PM

[quote=Black Meatball;168202]Maybe it's just you ;) I have had numerous Capts buy beer and dinner. And not just during my first year. Alot great guys out there. A few butheads!

Thanks again to all the guys that buy the beer! :)

Maybe it's the amount of beer I order? Oh well....a 12 pack of Schafer in a motel in SHV watching reruns of Simon & Simon is fine with me:D

Laughing_Jakal 05-20-2007 06:14 AM

Whatcha talking about?
 

Originally Posted by fdx727pilot (Post 167987)
Well, if he's 1st year and no one has bought him a beer, it certainly wasn't a senior person who stiffed him. It must be one of those 4 year Capts. Who says only senior peole can be greedy bastards?

Hell, my wife recently complained that I buy more dinners out for the crew each week than I do for her....I told her...and she actually understands, that it is part of "the cost of doing business"....kinda like belonging to the O'club.....you just do it and don't think about it. I'm a six year Capt and nothing's changed in the past year.

I think most of the young Captains realize how good they have it and probably "pay it forward"....particularly because they are cognizant of how many more years they have on property. It is a long time to live down a bad reputation.

I have actually seen the that the cheapest guys were....crotchety old purple guys, followed by retired 0-6's. The most generous.....the silver guys by a mile.

Huck 05-20-2007 06:39 AM


Well hopefully the over 60 Capts will buy my beer!

Every month an over-60 works as WB captain he is :

a. costing some 10 year NB captain who wants to bid WB captain $2325 / month;

b. costing some 7 year WB copilot who wants to bid NB captain $3150 / month;

c. costing some 3 year NB copilot who wants to make WB copilot $1500 / month;

d. costing some F-16/F-18/CRJ pilot another month of waiting for his dream job.



This is bound to put a little crimp in some of the postflight socialization, no?


(2d year after signing rates, 900 hours a year, no int'l pay)

ProfessorJoeVee 05-20-2007 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by Huck (Post 168280)
Every month an over-60 works as WB captain he is :

a. costing some 10 year NB captain who wants to bid WB captain $2325 / month;

b. costing some 7 year WB copilot who wants to bid NB captain $3150 / month;

c. costing some 3 year NB copilot who wants to make WB copilot $1500 / month;

d. costing some F-16/F-18/CRJ pilot another month of waiting for his dream job.



This is bound to put a little crimp in some of the postflight socialization, no?


(2d year after signing rates, 900 hours a year, no int'l pay)

I hope everyone reads and understands this.

You forgot to mention he also is stealing:

--B Funds

--5 years of retirement

--Seat senority



It just isn't about age discrimination.


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