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JackStraw 05-31-2020 06:55 AM

Where are the ATI pilots getting those Amazon Prime Air logo masks? Those are cool.

nitefr8dog 05-31-2020 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by JackStraw (Post 3067496)
Where are the ATI pilots getting those Amazon Prime Air logo masks? Those are cool.

Wow.....I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.

Riverside 05-31-2020 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by JackStraw (Post 3067496)
Where are the ATI pilots getting those Amazon Prime Air logo masks? Those are cool.

I thought it was them crossing a picket fence.

sofarup 05-31-2020 09:31 AM

I apologize if this doesn’t belong here but what exactly does ATI look for in terms of being competitive? Do they want 121 time, is 135 time sufficient, etc.?

abxflyr 05-31-2020 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Fixnem2Flyinem (Post 3067330)
Thats the truth, one of my good friends. He made captain before his first recurrent, so upgrade in lieu of recurrent.

And this is one of the reasons why I would say, similar to the Atlas MEC did in their own regard, the place is an accident waiting to happen. Not so much an *if* rather than a *when*.

With that said, I am not demeaning the ATI pilot group as a whole by any means. I know many fine folks over there and they do a good and safe job....but not all. The problem of rapid upgrades can cause issue at almost any airline, most airlines do not upgrade so quickly (except the undesirable ones or regionals...) Of course this is ACMI so that speaks for itself already.

flyboy730 05-31-2020 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by abxflyr (Post 3067721)
And this is one of the reasons why I would say, similar to the Atlas MEC did in their own regard, the place is an accident waiting to happen. Not so much an *if* rather than a *when*.

With that said, I am not demeaning the ATI pilot group as a whole by any means. I know many fine folks over there and they do a good and safe job....but not all. The problem of rapid upgrades can cause issue at almost any airline, most airlines do not upgrade so quickly (except the undesirable ones or regionals...) Of course this is ACMI so that speaks for itself already.

both of the 2019 hires that are now captains had extensive 75/76 time prior to ATI.

nitefr8dog 05-31-2020 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by abxflyr (Post 3067721)
And this is one of the reasons why I would say, similar to the Atlas MEC did in their own regard, the place is an accident waiting to happen. Not so much an *if* rather than a *when*.

With that said, I am not demeaning the ATI pilot group as a whole by any means. I know many fine folks over there and they do a good and safe job....but not all. The problem of rapid upgrades can cause issue at almost any airline, most airlines do not upgrade so quickly (except the undesirable ones or regionals...) Of course this is ACMI so that speaks for itself already.

One that I know had 15000 PIC Jet....upgraded after 6 mos....a friend of my was flying with him. Lots of ACMI cargo time. Not to many 23 yr olds (other than the CEO's kid) in line for early upgrades. As far as ACMI goes from my experience at 2 pax carriers it's a whole different animal. Non precision approaches without GPS after a 4 hr flight with map shift...pouring rain on an ungrooved rwy reported as dry in a language you dont understand to an airport in the jungle of South America. Of course this is ACMI as you said. Nobody holds your hand like the pax carriers do.

goinaround 05-31-2020 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 3067761)
One that I know had 15000 PIC Jet....upgraded after 6 mos....a friend of my was flying with him. Lots of ACMI cargo time. Not to many 23 yr olds (other than the CEO's kid) in line for early upgrades. As far as ACMI goes from my experience at 2 pax carriers it's a whole different animal. Non precision approaches without GPS after a 4 hr flight with map shift...pouring rain on an ungrooved rwy reported as dry in a language you dont understand to an airport in the jungle of South America. Of course this is ACMI as you said. Nobody holds your hand like the pax carriers do.

So much drama...........

nitefr8dog 06-01-2020 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by goinaround (Post 3067896)
So much reality..........

There...fixed it for you.

CA Deplorable 06-01-2020 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by flyboy730 (Post 3067726)
both of the 2019 hires that are now captains had extensive 75/76 time prior to ATI.

And one was friends with the CP


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