Leave a “Big Three” for FedEx/UPS (CV19)?
05-04-2020, 03:50 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by CRJJ
Automation in my opinion got delayed like a decade. No airline is going to invest a dollar on that for quite a few years after bleeding cash with all this going on.
like.....no. When the dust settles airline management will use this catastrophe to further crush the careers and aspirations of their unionized workers. They are opportunistic and greedy by nature and will take full advantage of the chance to push through their agenda of concessions and lay the foundation to get us out of the cockpit at the first opportunity. Scope will be attacked with the backing of the courts if necessary. British Airways just announced ALL of their employees, including the pilots must sign a new permanent zero hour contract that makes them at will employees with zero protection. Their existing contract will be cancelled. This nightmare will evolve into a scenario that management could only dream about while staring out of the window at Wharton.
05-04-2020, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Cargoisthebest
If you want to actually have a real career as a pilot, being a cargo pilot is a no brainier. Being an airline pilot sucks. No job security, deal with annoying and rude passengers. Complaining flight attendants. Cargo guys were laughed at and called fake pilots. Guess who's got the last laugh, definitely not the AA guys.
05-04-2020, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
I know that in the past UPS had gotten burned hiring furloughed legacy pilots because they ended up going back. From what I was told by a UPS check airman, they tended to shy away from legacy pilots since there are plenty of other people who want to work there and not just looking for a place to ride out their furlough.
05-04-2020, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Atrasaty
like.....no. When the dust settles airline management will use this catastrophe to further crush the careers and aspirations of their unionized workers. They are opportunistic and greedy by nature and will take full advantage of the chance to push through their agenda of concessions and lay the foundation to get us out of the cockpit at the first opportunity. Scope will be attacked with the backing of the courts if necessary. British Airways just announced ALL of their employees, including the pilots must sign a new permanent zero hour contract that makes them at will employees with zero protection. Their existing contract will be cancelled. This nightmare will evolve into a scenario that management could only dream about while staring out of the window at Wharton.
05-04-2020, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Ursus arctos
Bailing on 5 years seniority at a destination carrier sounds like a knee jerk reaction. There is no guarantee that the cargo companies won’t furlough in the next 1-2 years. A recession will hit those companies, possibly concurrent with passenger airlines ramping back up. I’d wait and see just how deep the furloughs will be before making any rash decisions. Leaving all that seniority could easily be a losing long term gamble.
05-04-2020, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fly2ski
Our last class, April 20, was almost all legacy pilots. They all came from the pool after trading water for several months. I fly with a fair amount of new pilots from legacies. Also more than likely your going to be a wide body for most of your career!
05-04-2020, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fly2ski
Our last class, April 20, was almost all legacy pilots. They all came from the pool after trading water for several months. I fly with a fair amount of new pilots from legacies. Also more than likely your going to be a wide body for most of your career!
05-04-2020, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
I would expect FedEx to consider each candidate from a legacy based on their unique situation and potential motives for seeking a pilot position. No one being hired right now took the actions necessary to get the job because of Covid. It’s very possible that FedEx will view those who were planning to leave during good times last year very differently from someone who suddenly gains interest in the aftermath of Covid.
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