New amazon covid commercial
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New amazon covid commercial
I love how the Amazon planes are apart of the amazon tv commercial. They sure like to claim us in the media but deny operational control.
anyone know who it was being filmed on the Cvg take off? Never saw any film crews out there.
anyone know who it was being filmed on the Cvg take off? Never saw any film crews out there.
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What exactly would you like Amazon to do? They are marketing themselves. It is what they do? Do you think the general public would understand operational control or even care? All I or anybody else but perhaps you cares about is that I click on an object and it shows up at my door.
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My own assumption - Amazon will become a carrier when it can fly planes without pilots. If you want Amazon in charge fully, with full FAA approval and certificate etc, better get ready for single pilot or no pilot cargo ops. Are you pushing for that? Because they very well may enter the space if they can automate lots of folks out of a job.
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My own assumption - Amazon will become a carrier when it can fly planes without pilots. If you want Amazon in charge fully, with full FAA approval and certificate etc, better get ready for single pilot or no pilot cargo ops. Are you pushing for that? Because they very well may enter the space if they can automate lots of folks out of a job.
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This has always been my fear for a few years now. The existing air carriers are not going to take on the risk of unmanned flight. However, Bezos has the money to blow and he's got some of the best tech people around to design it. But I can also see him going to the big airplane manufacturers and secretly design a large cargo drone.
I don't think they currently have ANY interest in doing this. BUT - they have one of the largest computer / tech team footprints in the world. So if you have the absolute biggest automation / tech hammer in the world, everything starts to look like a nail. This let's them do job deskilling. A bunch of workers / contractors getting paid in the < $50K / year range who do what the app or screen tells them (pick / pack / even deliver etc). This doesn't always mean jobs go away, but good traditionally union skilled jobs seem to.
Now you tell Amazon they HAVE to run ABX?? Maybe they pull contracts, bankrupt ATSG, buy up assets keep the ATI folks happy, dump the ABX deals, pension guarantees, restrictions on where airplanes can fly and selectively hire back pilots etc. I don't get the ABX fixation on having Amazon as their direct masters. You think they will put up with folks not answering their phones? It sounds like a marriage made in absolute hell.
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This has always been my fear for a few years now. The existing air carriers are not going to take on the risk of unmanned flight. However, Bezos has the money to blow and he's got some of the best tech people around to design it. But I can also see him going to the big airplane manufacturers and secretly design a large cargo drone.
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The ABX folks are the ones saying Amazon has "operational control" - or complaining that they don't take over with operational control. I'm responding to the thread starter.
ABX pilots are the ones pushing the "Amazon Air struggling to find pilots". [1] (which I'm not sure is true, ATI seems to able to find plenty). ABX struggles to find pilots partly because it was pretty clear they didn't want more Amazon flying and have pretty much burned their Amazon bridges.
I've no idea what the beef is with Amazon showing a plane in their colors in a commercial - they probably had it painted that way for marketing reasons just as others do (patriots etc) and a commercial is part of their marketing.
[1] https://qz.com/1763226/amazon-air-is...o-into-pilots/
ABX pilots are the ones pushing the "Amazon Air struggling to find pilots". [1] (which I'm not sure is true, ATI seems to able to find plenty). ABX struggles to find pilots partly because it was pretty clear they didn't want more Amazon flying and have pretty much burned their Amazon bridges.
I've no idea what the beef is with Amazon showing a plane in their colors in a commercial - they probably had it painted that way for marketing reasons just as others do (patriots etc) and a commercial is part of their marketing.
[1] https://qz.com/1763226/amazon-air-is...o-into-pilots/
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