tnkrdrvr

We both deliver to both residential and business addresses. Business to business shipping tends to be more profitable due to the higher number of packages per stop. UPS package car drivers (all Teamsters) deliver both next day and ground packages. Routes vary wildly based on the needs of the local area, but most drivers do the same route for years. Hence the familiarity customers have with their driver. FedEx drivers (not unionized) work for either their ground or their Express divisions. This is why you can have two different drivers deliver to your house the same day. They were mostly contractors, but I believe they are being brought in house. FedEx has also discussed trying to merge their two delivery services to attain greater efficiencies. I don’t know if that’s happened yet.

Its important to remember that next day air at UPS was an add on service to a pre-existing international ground network to compete with FedEx’s invention of the overnight business. FedEx ground is FedEx’s successful attempt to muscle into the traditional parcel post business dominated by the USPS and UPS.

ChopNDrop

I fail to see how that relates to the point/message of the OP?

Turbine1

Bottom line, during the most profitable time in company history Atlas is about to impose pay cuts and wipe away what little scope protections we have if an arbitrator rules for the company.

We're now fighting the Southern EXCO. Southern is refusing to sign the arbitrator selection agreement because their 500 member pilot group decided at the last minute they want 50% say in negotiations along with the 50% input of the 2000 Atlas pilots. Possibly a management ploy by pulling the strings of Southern to delay a JCBA into a 6th year, but one thing is for sure, the Fab Five Execs are laughing all the way to the bank.

JackStraw

Is it too late to get out the stapler?

WhipWhitaker

^ because 500+ Southern line pilots have anything to do with whatever strife there is between the EXCOs. Smart.

CRJJ

Super smart. Evil cheap southern pilots.

Birdsmash

So the Southern pilots should just bend over and let BK and crew decide what is best for them? Seriously, would you do that if in our position? Why should we give up whatever rights we have? It’s the Atlas side (and the execs) that have delayed this for so long. The lost $ over these years will NEVER be made back.

kodiakallstar

I know what I wouldn’t do. I wouldn’t low ball a pilot group that’s been fighting a for an industry standard contract for 5 years. That’s been sued and working under an injuction. Especially one that offered you date of hire without an expensive legal battle. Especially after you’ve got how many raises since you were acquired. The southern guys mean well I’m sure. The line pilots I’ve met have all been great guys but taking whatever we can get right now is not what atlas pilots elected this Exco for. It’s not an option. Industry standard or nothing

Fillmore Slim

I know if we were bought by UPS or FEDEX I'd drop the attitude tomorrow and let them handle ALL of the negotiations. Ego has no place at a negotiating table. You want what's best for the Southern pilots, let the guys who've been doing it for 5+ years continue to do so unencumbered. Your contract was brought up to par already and collectively it will benefit all in the future. Only management wins when we fight internally.

Industry standard (or better) or nothing.

Birdsmash

Ego does play a role. BK has a large one to feed and an axe to grind. I’d trust the FDX or UPS negotiators also. I don’t trust yours....just scroll back and look at Jackstraw’s comment as an example of some pilots’ underlying attitude.