Euro single pilot operations in future?
11-24-2022, 04:13 AM
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Euro single pilot operations in future?
From an article in AV Web.
”As European regulators began lobbying the International Civil Aviation Authority (ICAO) to develop automation standards that will allow single pilot airliner operations,”
https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/...ck-and-rudder/
”As European regulators began lobbying the International Civil Aviation Authority (ICAO) to develop automation standards that will allow single pilot airliner operations,”
https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/...ck-and-rudder/
11-27-2022, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by hopp
Sooo, that would require also a German Sheppard, French Poodle, or Belgian Malinous, to monitor and bite the single pilot in case he tries to touch something.
11-28-2022, 07:39 AM
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11-28-2022, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by maxjet
Thats why they have auto land
11-29-2022, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Right. Just give the FA a checklist to setup for an autoland. After they finish service, they verify the pilot is alert. If he's not, then they program the FMS before going back to prepare the cabin for arrival.
That is not at all what they are proposing. It will be similar but with more redundancy than Military drone operations. Anybody who thinks it is not coming is putting the head in the sand.
Incapacitated pilots as mentioned above are an argument for the program, not against. When you look back at accidents the last 20 years what single problem comes up most? Pilot error. Look at the difference in handling the Max issue in 2 different countries. No need for either aircraft to have crashed. Successful outcome by western trained pilots. Air France over the Atlantic is a perfect example of pilot error crashing a perfectly good aircraft when they had a very long time to fix the issue.
I don’t like it but it is coming.
11-29-2022, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by maxjet
Hi Rick,
That is not at all what they are proposing. It will be similar but with more redundancy than Military drone operations. Anybody who thinks it is not coming is putting the head in the sand.
Incapacitated pilots as mentioned above are an argument for the program, not against. When you look back at accidents the last 20 years what single problem comes up most? Pilot error. Look at the difference in handling the Max issue in 2 different countries. No need for either aircraft to have crashed. Successful outcome by western trained pilots. Air France over the Atlantic is a perfect example of pilot error crashing a perfectly good aircraft when they had a very long time to fix the issue.
I don’t like it but it is coming.
That is not at all what they are proposing. It will be similar but with more redundancy than Military drone operations. Anybody who thinks it is not coming is putting the head in the sand.
Incapacitated pilots as mentioned above are an argument for the program, not against. When you look back at accidents the last 20 years what single problem comes up most? Pilot error. Look at the difference in handling the Max issue in 2 different countries. No need for either aircraft to have crashed. Successful outcome by western trained pilots. Air France over the Atlantic is a perfect example of pilot error crashing a perfectly good aircraft when they had a very long time to fix the issue.
I don’t like it but it is coming.
Both were heavily influenced by poor computer programming (Airbus stall warning going out if airspeed decreases too low, and MAX just being MAX).
11-29-2022, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by maxjet
Hi Rick,
That is not at all what they are proposing. It will be similar but with more redundancy than Military drone operations. Anybody who thinks it is not coming is putting the head in the sand.
Incapacitated pilots as mentioned above are an argument for the program, not against. When you look back at accidents the last 20 years what single problem comes up most? Pilot error. Look at the difference in handling the Max issue in 2 different countries. No need for either aircraft to have crashed. Successful outcome by western trained pilots. Air France over the Atlantic is a perfect example of pilot error crashing a perfectly good aircraft when they had a very long time to fix the issue.
I don’t like it but it is coming.
That is not at all what they are proposing. It will be similar but with more redundancy than Military drone operations. Anybody who thinks it is not coming is putting the head in the sand.
Incapacitated pilots as mentioned above are an argument for the program, not against. When you look back at accidents the last 20 years what single problem comes up most? Pilot error. Look at the difference in handling the Max issue in 2 different countries. No need for either aircraft to have crashed. Successful outcome by western trained pilots. Air France over the Atlantic is a perfect example of pilot error crashing a perfectly good aircraft when they had a very long time to fix the issue.
I don’t like it but it is coming.
11-29-2022, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
And how would those planes (MAX and AF447) have reacted if they were fully autonomous?
Both were heavily influenced by poor computer programming (Airbus stall warning going out if airspeed decreases too low, and MAX just being MAX).
Both were heavily influenced by poor computer programming (Airbus stall warning going out if airspeed decreases too low, and MAX just being MAX).
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