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Birdsmash 02-12-2021 12:33 PM

Coming To An AMZN Jet Near You
 
It’s on a matter of time until Amazon demands access to FDM (Flight Data Monitoring) on its wholly owned and contracted airframes.

Amazon uses an app called Mentor to track and discipline delivery drivers
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/12/amaz...pyToPasteboard

slickshoes80 02-12-2021 12:40 PM

They would need to actually buy a cert first and umm no it’s not legal


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mart83648 02-12-2021 12:55 PM

Good Luck Amazon! You'll have to penetrate 6 ft lead wall of union groupthink.

CardboardCutout 02-13-2021 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by mart83648 (Post 3194385)
You'll have to penetrate 6 ft lead wall of union groupthink.

Er, and thank God for that! But yeah, I don't see any Union anywhere agreeing to some sort of dystopian Chicom Surveillance State insanity like that.

Birdsmash 02-13-2021 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by CardboardCutout (Post 3194852)
Er, and thank God for that! But yeah, I don't see any Union anywhere agreeing to some sort of dystopian Chicom Surveillance State insanity like that.

Unless your CBA has language formalizing FOQA or preventing the use of FDM how is a Union going to prevent it?

maxjet 02-14-2021 08:01 AM

First, the FAA would have to approve. Second, what would it possibly catch you doing? Breaking products? Stopping mid flight at you girlfriends house? Speeding? Reckless flying? What a waste of time it would be to worry about such things.

i see single pilot ops on Amazon planes as a much higher risk for your future.

rickair7777 02-14-2021 08:23 AM

Wouldn't loose any sleep over it.

AMZN contracts out airline ops so they don't have to manage it (and for whipsaw of course). Same with trains and container ships.

They contract out delivery drivers so they can keep the drivers at arms-length, but they still want to manage driver behavior for efficiency and branding reasons. Planes, trains, and ships already operate about as efficiently as they can.

Unlike planes, trains, and ships, delivery drivers can create public brand-image and liability problems with reckless driving.

Reactivity 02-15-2021 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by slickshoes80 (Post 3194373)
They would need to actually buy a cert first and umm no it’s not legal

No, they wouldn't, and yes, it is.

Seneca Pilot 02-16-2021 05:49 AM

Relax:

When flying from point A to point B you can't stop and sleep under a tree for an hour, stop at your girlfriend's house for a nooner, stop at your boy's house for a few beers, go to the bar to shoot a few games of pool, or any other type of time wasting and potentially liability producing activities. This is completely unnecessary in an air freight operation. Worrying about nothing.

MoarAlpha 02-16-2021 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by slickshoes80 (Post 3194373)
They would need to actually buy a cert first and umm no it’s not legal


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What's not legal about it?


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