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FlyAstarJets 03-08-2021 05:01 PM

Question for the Moderator
 
Why would you move the thread “ATI Interview” to the Atlas/Polar/Southern sub forum? ATI is not a part of either of those companies.

rickair7777 03-08-2021 05:04 PM

I moved a couple thousand threads that day, I'll be surprised if that's the only one I goofed up. Let me know if you see anything else.

GoodRide 03-09-2021 12:06 PM

RickAir, if separate sub folders for each is out of the question could ATI, ABX, OMNI become ATSG companies?

rickair7777 03-09-2021 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by GoodRide (Post 3204870)
RickAir, if separate sub folders for each is out of the question could ATI, ABX, OMNI become ATSG companies?

I'm considering that, how integrated are the pilots groups?

GoodRide 03-09-2021 07:50 PM

Not at all. ATI, ABX, and Omni operate as their own entities under the ATSG corporate umbrella.

wjcandee 03-09-2021 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by GoodRide (Post 3204870)
RickAir, if separate sub folders for each is out of the question could ATI, ABX, OMNI become ATSG companies?

Rickair, I know you are considering that request from your response, but in the mean time, it does appear, respectfully, that ATI (Air Transport International, which is an ATSG company) got moved into the Atlas/Polar/Southern heading.

In addition, Western Global, which is independent, and Northern Air Cargo, which is a Saltchuk company along with Aloha Air Cargo, also got moved to the Atlas/Polar/Southern heading.

WhiteMorpheus 03-10-2021 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by wjcandee (Post 3205079)
Rickair, I know you are considering that request from your response, but in the mean time, it does appear, respectfully, that ATI (Air Transport International, which is an ATSG company) got moved into the Atlas/Polar/Southern heading.

In addition, Western Global, which is independent, and Northern Air Cargo, which is a Saltchuk company along with Aloha Air Cargo, also got moved to the Atlas/Polar/Southern heading.

A change of that heading to ACMI, perhaps, would suffice? That's basically what I had hoped to see.

rickair7777 03-11-2021 10:07 AM

OK, I moved Northern and Western, and one more ATI thread back to cargo.

rickair7777 03-11-2021 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by WhiteMorpheus (Post 3205081)
A change of that heading to ACMI, perhaps, would suffice? That's basically what I had hoped to see.

Which heading are you referring to?

WhiteMorpheus 03-11-2021 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3205725)
Which heading are you referring to?

Disregard, it makes more sense to do add an ATSG sub-forum and then maybe put the other non-affiliated company threads in an "Other" sub-forum (since they aren't all ACMI).

PS Thanks for doing all this tidying up.

Grease 03-14-2021 05:45 AM

Can we not get too crazy with the extra sub forums? It’s gonna get harder to find topics if we have too many of these. Should we also group wholly owned regionals with the parent major company, or should they stay in the regional section?

TransWorld 03-14-2021 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by Grease (Post 3206857)
Can we not get too crazy with the extra sub forums? It’s gonna get harder to find topics if we have too many of these. Should we also group wholly owned regionals with the parent major company, or should they stay in the regional section?

I strongly support keeping the regionals where they are. Pilots looking at regionals want to find them all in one group. Pilots with the majors often do not keep up with the regionals. They only have a passing interest in them. Adding WOs to their parent company is not a good idea.

I was the person who advocated for sub forums in the regionals. Before that, regionals was a mess, the change has been well received by a vast amount of people.

Grease 03-14-2021 04:29 PM

ATSG might be considered in the same light, since it’s the parent company of airlines that operate in different sectors of the industry.

nitefr8dog 03-14-2021 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by Grease (Post 3207051)
ATSG might be considered in the same light, since it’s the parent company of airlines that operate in different sectors of the industry.

Like Atlas Air WorldWide Holdings is the parent company of airlines ( Atlas, Southern, Polar) that operate in different sector of the industry.

WhiteMorpheus 03-15-2021 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 3207083)
Like Atlas Air WorldWide Holdings is the parent company of airlines ( Atlas, Southern, Polar) that operate in different sector of the industry.

Omni isn't much of a cargo outfit, but I don't think anyone's advocating for moving the Omni threads to a Cargo/ATSG sub-forum.

I'd be happy with an "Other" sub with any threads that are applicable across the sector left in the main Cargo forum.

nitefr8dog 03-15-2021 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by WhiteMorpheus (Post 3207142)
Omni isn't much of a cargo outfit, but I don't think anyone's advocating for moving the Omni threads to a Cargo/ATSG sub-forum.

I'd be happy with an "Other" sub with any threads that are applicable across the sector left in the main Cargo forum.

Glad that works for you...

Elevation 03-18-2021 05:19 AM

Nice work making the extra sub-forums! This is way more organized. Thanks.

WhiteMorpheus 03-19-2021 02:03 AM


Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 3207154)
Glad that works for you...

Perhaps some empirical break-over point could be used based on the size of the pilot group or number of existing threads for any given carrier.

The Atlas/Southern/Polar thing is different than ATI/ABX sharing an ATSG sub.

The ATSG carriers are independently operated under different certificates, which I understand to be very different from the AAWW carriers, so it really makes more sense for each ATSG carrier to get their own forum.

You can't please everyone, but I see the decluttering of the main Cargo forum that has already been done as a step in the right direction.


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