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Old 07-13-2008, 08:29 AM
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Any more intel on the rumor that UPS might buy Atlas/Polar?
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:01 AM
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Any more intel on the rumor that UPS might buy Atlas/Polar?
Please, not another UPS or FedEx is buying Atlas again rumor, been hearing that for about 10 years now
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:43 AM
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Historically UPS doesn't buy other airlines, they buy assets of airlines. Challenge Air route structure in South America and Menlo LTL, as examples, neither involved hard assets or people in the purchase. They do buy entire ground distribution companies, Overnite Freight and foreign companies that they have established an ownership position prior to taking them over completely.
If you want to work for UPS plan on being hired directly , getting to UPS via an aquisition is a real long shot.
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Old 07-13-2008, 01:14 PM
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Please, not another UPS or FedEx is buying Atlas again rumor, been hearing that for about 10 years now
You've got it all wrong. UAL is buying Atlas.
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot View Post
Historically UPS doesn't buy other airlines, they buy assets of airlines...
Of course, historically we don't fly other freight company's cargo either, right?
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Old 07-13-2008, 03:01 PM
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You've got it all wrong. UAL is buying Atlas.
Now that scares me
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Actually, we move postal which could be considered another freight company. We also have military contracts/charters and prior to Menlo we did move stuff for forwarders, and the 757's we flew for Challenge ( flowers) prior to the purchase of the route structure. So we have moved other companies freight.
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Old 07-13-2008, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by j1b3h0 View Post
Any more intel on the rumor that UPS might buy Atlas/Polar?
What does Atlas/Polar own? Jets? Routes? Jets are leased? ACMI isn't routes. Serious question, what do they own?
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You've got it all wrong. UAL is buying Atlas.

Geez just shut it down and avoid the slow death!
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Originally Posted by AerisArmis View Post
What does Atlas/Polar own? Jets? Routes? Jets are leased? ACMI isn't routes. Serious question, what do they own?
The Atlas business model is far more complex than simple ACMI. Yes, there are route authorities (both Atlas and Polar). There are aircraft, under a mixed bag of lease and finance deals. There are cargo handling facilities in overseas locations. And of course the underlying business.

But with a market cap of 992 million UPS would have to cough up over a billion dollars for it, and I would think that UPS could find better uses for their money.
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