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Old 07-15-2021, 05:40 PM
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Class of 12 start on 08/10...just announced an additional class of 12 to start on 09/09.
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Old 07-16-2021, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Podrick View Post
Can someone at ABX comment a little more on lines. I saw that there’s the option of bidding two separate work blocks per month, is that something that’s widely available and possible for new hires, and what’s the typical footprint (7on/7off?). Does Europe flying go senior? Thanks in advance, I’m an rj captain based in ord trying to learn more about ABX, trying to decide if it would be a good fit for me vs staying where I’m at.
Starting point is 14 days off per month. The CBA defines how those can be spread out during the month. Currently, 50% of lines (also applies to reserve lines) must contain all 14 days off in a single block. That could be at the beginning of the month, the end of the month, or somewhere in the middle. The remaining lines must contain at least one block of five days off and one block of six days off, or a block of 10 off and a block of 4 off. Minimum number of work days in a block is three. And then there are some other details, but this is the general outline.

Generally, if you want to break up your schedule across the month, you're going to be able to do that between bidding and schedule adjustments.

The Europe flying isn't especially senior. I've seen some fairly junior people on those trips.
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Old 07-20-2021, 05:34 PM
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I understand how the schedues work but I am curious if there is anyone who is currently in the National Guard/Reserves who can give a first hand experience on getting off for drill. I finished the application today so heres to hoping I get a call!
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Old 07-20-2021, 05:47 PM
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I understand how the schedues work but I am curious if there is anyone who is currently in the National Guard/Reserves who can give a first hand experience on getting off for drill. I finished the application today so heres to hoping I get a call!
Not a problem. I dropped a ton of mil leave when I was there. Getting paid correctly afterwards is the problem….
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Old 07-20-2021, 06:17 PM
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I recently mentored a new hire who is mil and can give you the same info. ABX will let you off work for anything that you have orders for (they have to by law as you probably already know). For typical drill wkends, etc., they will tell you to try and bid your sched around your need for days off, again if you have orders you can drop it helps. If you can not hold a schedule with the needed days, you can trade with crew scheduling to accommodate your needs. With that said, you may be working trips/days that you do not wish to and it can be a broken sched. After all the company can't just make trips for you specifically, etc.

So it works just not completely pretty at times.

Honestly this shouldn't be one's primary focus since the higher order of biz is to determine if it (the company) is a job you want and can do. The rest (bidding, vacation, mil leave, etc.) comes secondary.

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Old 07-29-2021, 12:34 AM
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Applied-interesting assessment questionnaire. A couple words I have never heard.
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Old 08-12-2021, 05:40 AM
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How long is RSV right now? How long can the company extend you on a Jr. Man. What are crash pads running in CVG. Thanks guys
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Old 08-12-2021, 07:27 AM
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How long is RSV right now? How long can the company extend you on a Jr. Man. What are crash pads running in CVG. Thanks guys
From the new hires I work with, RSV seems to be 6-8 months. YMMV.
There is very little if any JRM these days. The new contract scheduling rules were specifically written to illuminate JRM with pay incentives. Any additional flying is posted at 150, 175, or 200% pay. It gets gobbled up pretty quick. That said if you are JRM'D they would want to minimize the cost and D6 credit, 1 or 2 days would be the norm.
Crash pads seem to be in the 250-300 range shared room. 500 single room.
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Old 08-12-2021, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog View Post
From the new hires I work with, RSV seems to be 6-8 months. YMMV.
There is very little if any JRM these days. The new contract scheduling rules were specifically written to illuminate JRM with pay incentives. Any additional flying is posted at 150, 175, or 200% pay. It gets gobbled up pretty quick. That said if you are JRM'D they would want to minimize the cost and D6 credit, 1 or 2 days would be the norm.
Crash pads seem to be in the 250-300 range shared room. 500 single room.
thanks so much for the response! Last one are they still paying for the hotel rooms while sitting on airport rsv? Or is that gone?
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by stillcantfly View Post
thanks so much for the response! Last one are they still paying for the hotel rooms while sitting on airport rsv? Or is that gone?
That is over.

There is, however, a provision in the contract for the company to buy hotel rooms for those who bid R1 (airport reserve) on a flex day (an unassigned work day on a line - kind of like reserve, but not really because it has to be assigned beforehand - it either gets assigned, or you're off for the day) for a 24-hour period that includes the R1 time. You'll still do the R1 at the airport.

To add to what has already been said, you will probably be kept busy while on reserve. It used to be that when on reserve, you would get an assignment and then go to the bottom of the list. Now you can bid "will fly" or "not fly" on reserve. Assignments are then made in order of seniority from the will fly list first and then from the not fly list in reverse order of seniority. A surprising number of people bid "not fly", so if you bid "will fly", you will probably be busy.

I have never had a crashpad. Even before the will fly/not fly system, I was busy enough on reserve that I never thought it was worth the expense, especially once you add in transportation and other associated costs.

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