Originally Posted by paulhood
(Post 3290659)
Crew Outfitters in CVG has the published catalog already.
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Originally Posted by LRSRanger
(Post 3290922)
HEY-Ooo. 😂🤷🏼♂️🎉
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Just lay low and let em do it. They’re working themselves into the biggest single carrier suit in history.
Huge single distribution hub control of schedules over multiple carriers now same uniforms.... |
Originally Posted by Cujo665
(Post 3291073)
Just lay low and let em do it. They’re working themselves into the biggest single carrier suit in history.
Huge single distribution hub control of schedules over multiple carriers now same uniforms.... Perhaps the wearing of different uniforms depending upon who the customer is breaks the chain on that, so to speak. And clearly Atlas, ABX, Southern, Sun Country and ATI are not owned by the same company, doing the same thing. The Single Transportation System concept applies only to certain arrangements, and uniforms is only a minor factor, so there may be legalities that trump anything about uniforms. But I didn't fail to notice the uniform issue when I saw the first post on this. |
Originally Posted by Cujo665
(Post 3291073)
Just lay low and let em do it. They’re working themselves into the biggest single carrier suit in history.
Huge single distribution hub control of schedules over multiple carriers now same uniforms.... |
Originally Posted by wjcandee
(Post 3291207)
Respectfully, I have to think that the folks at Amazon had some lawyers look at this...
Perhaps the wearing of different uniforms depending upon who the customer is breaks the chain on that, so to speak. And clearly Atlas, ABX, Southern, Sun Country and ATI are not owned by the same company, doing the same thing. The Single Transportation System concept applies only to certain arrangements, and uniforms is only a minor factor, so there may be legalities that trump anything about uniforms. But I didn't fail to notice the uniform issue when I saw the first post on this. |
Originally Posted by Reactivity
(Post 3291209)
ABX was not able to convince anyone that ABX & ATI were a single carrier when they were owned by a common parent company, wearing nearly identical uniforms, serving the same customers and passing DOD work back and forth between the airlines. It seems unlikely that anyone would be able to make that case for Amazon.
Even if the NMB did find a STS existed, it just makes one big pilot group, triggers a representation vote, and puts everybody on a single CBA; which would be an absolute nightmare to negotiate. Better to let them start integrating and merging on their own IMHO. |
Originally Posted by Reactivity
(Post 3291042)
You'll have to define "concessionary".
As of January 1 of this year, my pay increased by 27%. I will work 7 fewer days this year than I did last year. I haven't been junior manned a single day this year because it's now possible to pick up open time at 150%, 175%, or 200%, and junior man pay hasn't changed. And the amount that the company puts into my retirement account increased from 7.5% to 8.5%. Uniforms look pretty practical, but yeah, not the fighter pilot big leather jacket look if that's what folks want. |
Originally Posted by nitefr8dog
(Post 3290744)
And you get to wear wings with the bent c@ck on it.....no extra money, not better schedules, no extra retirement...just the bent c@ck.
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Originally Posted by dynap09
(Post 3291291)
The concessionary claim is garbage from what I can tell. ABX claims ATI pilots took a pay cut on their new contract. It's a total lie basically from what I've seen. You also should compare upgrade timelines.
Not that they took a pay cut, but rather that they could have done better given the state of the industry at the time. That mattered to ABX because it put an upper limit on what we would be able to achieve in our negotiations. And it did. |
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