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jetlaggy 10-14-2021 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3309118)
As a friend in construction said decades ago, if they can’t get it done working 24/7, then they need to start working night and weekends.


Lets call it…umm…PEAK

rickair7777 10-15-2021 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr (Post 3308652)
either Joe really is senile or he is more comfortable than the average politician with flat out deception. As everyone here already knows, UPS, FedEx, Amazon, Walmart, etc are already 24/7. Unless you need transition scheduling, they work bankers hours.

He meant EVERYBODY is going to work 24/7. Instead of taking turns.

tnkrdrvr 10-15-2021 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3309926)
He meant EVERYBODY is going to work 24/7. Instead of taking turns.

:D I’ll work 24/7 until Christmas for 24 hours of JA pay/day. Then I’ll retire and watch it all burn.

JohnBurke 10-16-2021 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by FXLAX (Post 3308622)
I don’t know about UPS but FedEx already operates 24/7/365.

You're not even close. When you start to work the hours on both sides of the clock that the ACMI do that also carry your cargo, you'll scream bloody murder and still won't be going at that kind of pace. Peak isn't close. Just backed up.

You scream long and loud about the abuse and the rough conditions, despite being at the worlds second highest paying airline, working one of the best-treated, easiest jobs in the world, and have no idea what it's really like to run around the clock, do you?

The FedEx model works for FedEx, but has been falling behind (had a time critical package recently take 7 days to go from one state to another in an overnight package on FedEx), and the world on time is anything but. FedEx isn't doing deliveries in the dead of night; doing the sort, but nothing like a 24 hour supply. You may actually be working one of the most pampered jobs in the world, and have no idea how the other 90% lives. You're one of the loudest voices on here constantly wailing about it, too. One can only imagine what happens if you eventually learn what reality is really like.


Originally Posted by jetlaggy (Post 3308609)
Maybe its cargo's turn for some covid money to ensure supply lines get moving.

Cargo already got large sums of Covid money, at a time when cargo was making large dividends due to increased rates. Record profits.

You know this.

flyguy23 10-17-2021 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 3310411)
You're not even close. When you start to work the hours on both sides of the clock that the ACMI do that also carry your cargo, you'll scream bloody murder and still won't be going at that kind of pace. Peak isn't close. Just backed up.

You scream long and loud about the abuse and the rough conditions, despite being at the worlds second highest paying airline, working one of the best-treated, easiest jobs in the world, and have no idea what it's really like to run around the clock, do you?

The FedEx model works for FedEx, but has been falling behind (had a time critical package recently take 7 days to go from one state to another in an overnight package on FedEx), and the world on time is anything but. FedEx isn't doing deliveries in the dead of night; doing the sort, but nothing like a 24 hour supply. You may actually be working one of the most pampered jobs in the world, and have no idea how the other 90% lives. You're one of the loudest voices on here constantly wailing about it, too. One can only imagine what happens if you eventually learn what reality is really like.



Cargo already got large sums of Covid money, at a time when cargo was making large dividends due to increased rates. Record profits.

You know this.

Some might say you sound a bit bitter…

tnkrdrvr 10-17-2021 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 3310411)
You're not even close. When you start to work the hours on both sides of the clock that the ACMI do that also carry your cargo, you'll scream bloody murder and still won't be going at that kind of pace. Peak isn't close. Just backed up.

You scream long and loud about the abuse and the rough conditions, despite being at the worlds second highest paying airline, working one of the best-treated, easiest jobs in the world, and have no idea what it's really like to run around the clock, do you?

The FedEx model works for FedEx, but has been falling behind (had a time critical package recently take 7 days to go from one state to another in an overnight package on FedEx), and the world on time is anything but. FedEx isn't doing deliveries in the dead of night; doing the sort, but nothing like a 24 hour supply. You may actually be working one of the most pampered jobs in the world, and have no idea how the other 90% lives. You're one of the loudest voices on here constantly wailing about it, too. One can only imagine what happens if you eventually learn what reality is really like.



Cargo already got large sums of Covid money, at a time when cargo was making large dividends due to increased rates. Record profits.

You know this.

Not sure what your axe to grind is, but UPS and FedEx declined the PPP. We are both making record profits due to record demand for the product. FedEx has struggled some with the demand increase, but I’m sure they will figure it out. As for the rest of your rant, perhaps you should drink less and work harder at getting a better job. ACMI works longer days and has generally poor work rules because they are the regionals of the cargo industry. If you don’t like it, move on.

BoilerUP 10-17-2021 06:50 AM

The only thing that doesn't already happen 24/7 at the Big 2 express package carriers are last mile customer deliveries...which I'm pretty sure USPS, Amazon, and ACMI airlines don't do either.

JohnBurke 10-17-2021 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr (Post 3310475)
Not sure what your axe to grind is, but UPS and FedEx declined the PPP. We are both making record profits due to record demand for the product. FedEx has struggled some with the demand increase, but I’m sure they will figure it out. As for the rest of your rant, perhaps you should drink less and work harder at getting a better job. ACMI works longer days and has generally poor work rules because they are the regionals of the cargo industry. If you don’t like it, move on.

I did not say I fly ACMI. You assume.

There are more cargo operations than UPS and FedEx. It's nice to know that the world revolves around, you, though.

flyguy23 10-17-2021 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 3310513)
I did not say I fly ACMI. You assume.

There are more cargo operations than UPS and FedEx. It's nice to know that the world revolves around, you, though.


Not bitter at all…

FXLAX 10-17-2021 09:03 PM

Cargo gonna step it up
 

Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 3310411)
You're not even close. When you start to work the hours on both sides of the clock that the ACMI do that also carry your cargo, you'll scream bloody murder and still won't be going at that kind of pace. Peak isn't close. Just backed up.

You scream long and loud about the abuse and the rough conditions, despite being at the worlds second highest paying airline, working one of the best-treated, easiest jobs in the world, and have no idea what it's really like to run around the clock, do you?

The FedEx model works for FedEx, but has been falling behind (had a time critical package recently take 7 days to go from one state to another in an overnight package on FedEx), and the world on time is anything but. FedEx isn't doing deliveries in the dead of night; doing the sort, but nothing like a 24 hour supply. You may actually be working one of the most pampered jobs in the world, and have no idea how the other 90% lives. You're one of the loudest voices on here constantly wailing about it, too. One can only imagine what happens if you eventually learn what reality is really like.


Wow, making it personal, yet I have no idea who you are. And good strawman arguments you make. Come up with some doozies there. And even threw in some red herrings for good measure. I’m flattered my wailings live in your memory, rent free. Anyway, we have flights operate at all hours of the day, every day. And we have trucks operating every hour of the day, every day. We may even have some freight cars on the rails and shipping containers on the high seas? So I stand 100% behind my statement. FedEx already operates 24/7/365. And that’s on all sides of any clock you choose. I’ll give you a hint, this discussion wasn’t about Express.

I’m not even sure that FedEx is number two but out of morbid curiosity, which which airline is the ‘world’s first highest paying airline’?

Ok, now I’ll just go back to having no idea how the other 90% lives and what it's really like to run around the clock, while I’m at the best treated, easiest, pampered job, world’s second highest paying airline, while I’m simultaneously wailing, screaming long and loud bloody murder about abuse and rough conditions, while one (you?) imagines what happens if I eventually learn what reality is really like and not that FedEx outsources and supposedly isn’t even close to operating 24/7, just backed.

Did I get the gist of your rant?


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