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Hawkerdriver1 10-29-2021 02:02 PM

Eastern Airlines Cargo latest.
 
Getting 777’non-conversions for light freight only. Any thoughts on that & updates appreciated.



HD

Birdsmash 10-29-2021 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1 (Post 3315772)
Getting 777’non-conversions for light freight only. Any thoughts on that & updates appreciated.



HD

It sounds like all the other poorly conceived ideas associated with that name.

Whalehunter 10-29-2021 09:33 PM

Is this Eastern 4.0?

METO Guido 10-30-2021 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by Whalehunter (Post 3315929)
Is this Eastern 4.0?

Exactly. Fewer all the time to remember any of it. Paint job & a paycheck, like all the rest. Amzn above the floor, serious freight in high capacity bellies. Bonus at graduation with sweetened completion incentives years 1-3 if the bagmen can think. Big foot busts loose.

David Puddy 11-01-2021 08:43 AM

CEO sounds pretty confident:

https://www.aircargonews.net/monthly...-to-air-cargo/

Gonna need a lot of pilots for this 777 fleet - better offer competitive wages in this market….

Reactivity 11-01-2021 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by David Puddy (Post 3317016)
Gonna need a lot of pilots for this 777 fleet - better offer competitive wages in this market….

They'll take whoever walks in the door. You think a bunch of young bright-eyed regional pilots won't jump at the chance for international heavy time and take whatever is offered to get it?

The Dominican 11-01-2021 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by David Puddy (Post 3317016)
CEO sounds pretty confident:

https://www.aircargonews.net/monthly...-to-air-cargo/

Gonna need a lot of pilots for this 777 fleet - better offer competitive wages in this market….

Current pay as per another thread.

Eastern is hiring, new pay package in place:
year Captain First Officer

1- 164 108
2 - 171 114
3 - 188 133
4 - 204 137
5 - 213 143
6 - 219 147
7 - 226 152
8 - 232 156
9 - 238 160
10- 245 165
11 - 251 168
12 - 257 172

Hawkerdriver1 11-01-2021 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by The Dominican (Post 3317066)
Current pay as per another thread.

Eastern is hiring, new pay package in place:
year Captain First Officer

1- 164 108
2 - 171 114
3 - 188 133
4 - 204 137
5 - 213 143
6 - 219 147
7 - 226 152
8 - 232 156
9 - 238 160
10- 245 165
11 - 251 168
12 - 257 172

Thx,!


HD

Typhoonpilot 11-05-2021 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by The Dominican (Post 3317066)
Current pay as per another thread.

Eastern is hiring, new pay package in place:
year Captain First Officer

1- 164 108
2 - 171 114
3 - 188 133
4 - 204 137
5 - 213 143
6 - 219 147
7 - 226 152
8 - 232 156
9 - 238 160
10- 245 165
11 - 251 168
12 - 257 172

Hey Dom, you're at Eastern now?

The Dominican 11-06-2021 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot (Post 3319133)
Hey Dom, you're at Eastern now?

PM sent TP…

Continuingappch 11-09-2021 04:35 PM

Figure ten hours to load and ten hours to unload a 777 thru pax doors. Sounds insane.

METO Guido 11-10-2021 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by Continuingappch (Post 3320732)
Figure ten hours to load and ten hours to unload a 777 thru pax doors. Sounds insane.

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FlyAstarJets 11-11-2021 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by Continuingappch (Post 3320732)
Figure ten hours to load and ten hours to unload a 777 thru pax doors. Sounds insane.

Watching rampers across on the international ramp hand load a 747 in RFD this week. Asked one of our ramp people that question, said “8 hours plus”. Wasn’t sure cause they were still at it after he left for the day after his 8 hour shift.

Typhoonpilot 11-12-2021 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Continuingappch (Post 3320732)
Figure ten hours to load and ten hours to unload a 777 thru pax doors. Sounds insane.

EK and SQ have been doing it successfully for a year now. As good as a true freighter? = no, but certainly not a ten hour load time when done properly:

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HPIC 11-12-2021 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot (Post 3322096)
EK and SQ have been doing it successfully for a year now. As good as a true freighter? = no, but certainly not a ten hour load time when done properly:

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That’s not the typical cargo that goes onto freighters. Those are all the same size boxes that are easy to stack and secure. A typical freighter has cargo loads of every shape and size you can imagine that won’t go together like that.

Additionally…the volume in that picture is nowhere near what’s required to make most operations carrying general cargo economically viable.

threeighteen 11-12-2021 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by HPIC (Post 3322140)

Additionally…the volume in that picture is nowhere near what’s required to make most operations carrying general cargo economically viable.

Yes, but thankfully there's more cargo in that plane than what is in that picture. Historically, belly cargo would usually bring a passenger wide-body close to breaking even on an overseas flight. Now that FTKs are higher the belly cargo is sometimes enough to turn a small profit, especially with these supply chain fiascos. The main deck stuff, even if it is a lighter load, is extra profit. United is not loading the main decks and they're still bringing decent money with their makeshift cargo operation right now, enough so that they actually increased their cargo operation for the tail end of this year.


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