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BigWatchPilot 06-13-2007 06:54 AM

Recurrent Training and Schedule? (FDX)
 
Hey guys...trying to look something up…

Recurrent training...scheduled on the last 2 R-days of my bid month. My ENTIRE schedule has been dropped. WTF??? I made a phone call and I will be emailed the *new* provision in the contract that allows FDX to do this...I must have missed this the last 3 or 4 times I have tried reading this thing.

Does this mean I now have a secondary line???

hawkeye77 06-13-2007 07:05 AM

I think starting a couple of months ago, with the new contract, if one R-day is touched then all R-days are dropped that touch that R-day. Starting today you need to go into make-up open time to get paid for the month. This is before Sec lines are done.

BigWatchPilot 06-13-2007 07:13 AM

Thanks dude...just found it here: Section 25.C.11.f.

I just love finding out these things after the fact...Ohhh, I know I should have read the contract a 6th time and then maybe I would have understood it better.

Lindy 06-13-2007 07:16 AM

Did you have 19 R-Days in a row? If so, yes, the company can drop the entire string of R-Days per the new contract.

If you want to get paid, you need to go into the View-Add window and add trips.

This hurts if you are local Memphis and wanted to sit reserve for the month and not fly (much). If you are low seniority and a commuter, it is a bonus (now you have trips and no reserve).

GreaseA6 06-13-2007 07:18 AM

It might not be a bad deal if you get to build your own custom line from open time...."might not" being the operative words here.

Falconjet 06-13-2007 07:50 AM

Exactly. That is a great chance to build your own custom line.

This has been discussed several times on here, you're not the first to get surprised by this.

BigWatchPilot 06-13-2007 08:05 AM

Thanks guys for the response...I have been working on the line all morning.

MaxKts 06-13-2007 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Lindy (Post 179619)
Did you have 19 R-Days in a row? If so, yes, the company can drop the entire string of R-Days per the new contract.

I thought if the training was at the beginning or end of a string of R days only the days touched by training would be dropped. The only time you should dump the whole string is if training is in the middle (ie R days remaining before and after training. Am I reading this wrong? :confused:

Falconjet 06-13-2007 08:12 AM

You drop the entire block of R days if one is touched by the training slot. Therefor, if you have a block of 19 straight R days, they all go away. If they are broken up into blocks, only the ones in the block that is touched go away.

FJ

MaxKts 06-13-2007 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by Falconjet (Post 179660)
You drop the entire block of R days if one is touched by the training slot. Therefor, if you have a block of 19 straight R days, they all go away. If they are broken up into blocks, only the ones in the block that is touched go away.

FJ

Does this mean that this section of the contract has been voided or am I reading it wrong?

4. Recurrent Training Pay (Other than Line Checks)

ii. If a pilot is awarded/assigned recurrent training in conflict with a trip or block of R-days, his pay shall be handled as provided in Section 4.I.1.a. (phase-in conflicts). Conflicts with blocks of R-days under this paragraph shall be handled as follows:


(a) If the pilot's recurrent training conflicts with a block of R-days but does not split that block (i.e., it does not leave an R-day(s) both before and after the recurrent training), then only the R- days in conflict with recurrent training shall be dropped as a phase-in conflict and the pilot shall remain responsible for the remaining R-days.

(b) If the pilot's recurrent training splits a block of R-days, then the entire block shall be dropped as a phase-in conflict and the pilot shall not be responsible for any of the R-days in that block.


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