Training timelines
Hey guys how long are y’all waiting for sims ? Company, aircraft and wait time thanks !
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Originally Posted by V1rotate2500
(Post 3478194)
Hey guys how long are y’all waiting for sims ? Company, aircraft and wait time thanks !
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Originally Posted by Birdsmash
(Post 3478198)
Which company?
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Originally Posted by V1rotate2500
(Post 3478207)
Amerijet , ABX , Atlas 767
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ATI is 70 days(or less) Day 1 to IOE sign off, release to the line. DM me.
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At Atlas the training department is swamped. They are telling people in the interview that it will be about three months. Double it and you will be in the ballpark
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Originally Posted by The Dominican
(Post 3478303)
At Atlas the training department is swamped. They are telling people in the interview that it will be about three months. Double it and you will be in the ballpark
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It’s true they are swamped, however the increase in hiring does have a lot to do with attrition, and what we now know about a certain purchase.
Those who can, have a look at how many are on the CVG seniority bid list; blue “blocked” list |
Originally Posted by V1rotate2500
(Post 3478435)
Indoc and then a 3 month wait ?
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I'm genuinely curious, does the wait time during training have much weight to anyone's decision about where to go for work?
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This is an industry wide issue. I know someone at a very popular major that had to come in and reset her 120 day consolidation because OE was so backed up.
How can sitting at home with a seniority number getting paid guarantee be such a horrific and unpleasant experience??…sigh… |
Originally Posted by 160to4
(Post 3480534)
This is an industry wide issue. I know someone at a very popular major that had to come in and reset her 120 day consolidation because OE was so backed up.
How can sitting at home with a seniority number getting paid guarantee be such a horrific and unpleasant experience??…sigh… |
Originally Posted by Reactivity
(Post 3480555)
In the current environment, I'm guessing that time builders want the time in their logbook right now so that they can update their applications with Delta/United/American/whatever. Time waiting for IOE is time not on the seniority list and making the big bucks at their desired final destination.
Precisely! “Generation Now” I guess going to a regional is off the cards because who wants a CRJ/EMB type when you can have a 747 right? Man I must be getting old and out of touch to say; aviation looked nothing like this when I started out |
Originally Posted by 160to4
(Post 3480569)
Precisely! “Generation Now”
I guess going to a regional is off the cards because who wants a CRJ/EMB type when you can have a 747 right? Man I must be getting old and out of touch to say; aviation looked nothing like this when I started out |
Originally Posted by DVNO
(Post 3480722)
Whether or not it’s out of touch, no one should say for a moment that the new generation of drivers should have to slog through the low pay and poor work rules or yesteryear. The fact that there’s upward movement is a great thing, don’t belittle guys taking advantage of the industry and the management that never cared for them in the first place. If we are just numbers, than the seniority list of just numbers can do fine without new guys. Pay your people and treat them right, otherwise it’s numbers walking out the door with a new type and little to no revenue created for the company. If you could have a career from ATP cert onwards, guys would never have to jump ship again.
The point I was trying to make was; if being delayed during training and sent home was not good enough at first years’ pay at Atlas, then apply somewhere else. This has nothing to do with the untrusted management at 5Y. Delta match our first years’ pay. AA, UPS, FedEx, and even United all have lower pay during the first year. Spirit ($1700/month), F9 or the regionals MIGHT get you a few hours quicker in your quest for the majors, than Atlas, but that has nothing to do with the inabilities of the training center. |
Originally Posted by DVNO
(Post 3480722)
Whether or not it’s out of touch, no one should say for a moment that the new generation of drivers should have to slog through the low pay and poor work rules or yesteryear. The fact that there’s upward movement is a great thing, don’t belittle guys taking advantage of the industry and the management that never cared for them in the first place. If we are just numbers, than the seniority list of just numbers can do fine without new guys. Pay your people and treat them right, otherwise it’s numbers walking out the door with a new type and little to no revenue created for the company. If you could have a career from ATP cert onwards, guys would never have to jump ship again.
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