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Gunter 07-07-2007 05:26 PM

Thanks Tony


Gross up is not the same as tax equalization.

Any ideas how much tax equalization helps?

Anybody remember what the Cathay guys get for moving to HKG? How much extra per month or year?


Thanks,

Gunter

Bitme 07-08-2007 08:40 AM

The operative word in the PPM about gross up is "may".

GreaseA6 07-08-2007 12:48 PM

Also many thanks Tony, you never cease to amaze me. Now my follow up question would be what are the effects on pensionable earnings between tax gross up in the current CBA and the addional money in the LOA?

Magenta Line 07-08-2007 08:03 PM

I got a big beef with this tax equalization thing. So I'm part owner of a 50' Bertram at the Oregon Inlet which I lease out for deep sea fishing. I depreciate it and take it off of my taxes each year. What business of it is FedEx's? If I got $20K back in taxes last year, do I have to go to Fred and show him how much $$$ I made OUTSIDE of this FedEx gig? If I go to HKG, will I have to use PW? What if I don't want some recent Acct grad in a big glass house doing my taxes? I'm happy with my CPA in NC; he's legit, keeps me out of trouble, and keeps the Feds off my back.

What I do outside of work at FedEx is none of FedEx's business. And of course, I'm talking about legal, legit, honest work. I've met guys who have their own small businesses, A&P work, FAA examiners, government contractors, general contractors, etc... I'm not hip on letting somebody else into MY tax business. Straighten me out if I'm off base here.....

fdx727pilot 07-08-2007 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by Magenta Line (Post 192361)
I got a big beef with this tax equalization thing. So I'm part owner of a 50' Bertram at the Oregon Inlet which I lease out for deep sea fishing. I depreciate it and take it off of my taxes each year. What business of it is FedEx's? If I got $20K back in taxes last year, do I have to go to Fred and show him how much $$$ I made OUTSIDE of this FedEx gig? If I go to HKG, will I have to use PW? What if I don't want some recent Acct grad in a big glass house doing my taxes? I'm happy with my CPA in NC; he's legit, keeps me out of trouble, and keeps the Feds off my back.

What I do outside of work at FedEx is none of FedEx's business. And of course, I'm talking about legal, legit, honest work. I've met guys who have their own small businesses, A&P work, FAA examiners, government contractors, general contractors, etc... I'm not hip on letting somebody else into MY tax business. Straighten me out if I'm off base here.....

You just won't get any benefit out of tax equalization. I don't think FDX can force you to use PW if you forego equalization. If you want the company to reimburse you for some of the tax you pay, you're gonna have to let them into your business. I may be offbase, but not a totally unreasonable position.
Knowing some of the shenanigans pilots have pulled on their tax returns, I can't blame the company for not wanting to take an individuals word for it.


UPDATE
My mistake. Para C. does seem to make PW mandatory. Well, then, that's the downside.

FDXLAG 07-09-2007 02:12 AM


Originally Posted by fdx727pilot (Post 192378)
You just won't get any benefit out of tax equalization. I don't think FDX can force you to use PW if you forego equalization. If you want the company to reimburse you for some of the tax you pay, you're gonna have to let them into your business. I may be offbase, but not a totally unreasonable position.
Knowing some of the shenanigans pilots have pulled on their tax returns, I can't blame the company for not wanting to take an individuals word for it.


UPDATE
My mistake. Para C. does seem to make PW mandatory. Well, then, that's the downside.


Which is why "Tax Equalization" should be a defined benefits based on hourly payrate and location. Just one of many loopholes in this LOA.

Albief15 07-09-2007 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by Magenta Line (Post 192361)
I got a big beef with this tax equalization thing. So I'm part owner of a 50' Bertram at the Oregon Inlet which I lease out for deep sea fishing. I depreciate it and take it off of my taxes each year. What business of it is FedEx's? If I got $20K back in taxes last year, do I have to go to Fred and show him how much $$$ I made OUTSIDE of this FedEx gig? If I go to HKG, will I have to use PW? What if I don't want some recent Acct grad in a big glass house doing my taxes? I'm happy with my CPA in NC; he's legit, keeps me out of trouble, and keeps the Feds off my back.

What I do outside of work at FedEx is none of FedEx's business. And of course, I'm talking about legal, legit, honest work. I've met guys who have their own small businesses, A&P work, FAA examiners, government contractors, general contractors, etc... I'm not hip on letting somebody else into MY tax business. Straighten me out if I'm off base here.....

You are not off base. I own 2 S-corps...Emerald Coast Interview Consulting and the Emerald Coast Equestrian Center. I dont' really care if Fred & Company dive into my books--I have a CPA already doing them now that is very straightforward. However, I just cannot fanthom the @ss-pain of taking an already difficult and detailed tax return and expecting the same quality of service I get now. That means I won't bid this FDA--but not that its not a good deal for other folks. However--like you--there are are some of us who while we love our airline jobs also enjoy doing some other things in our time off.

A bigger question I have is "who watches the farm if I get SVT'd?" "Who cleans your boat and gets it serviced? How much money would you lose if you lost 3 months off your peak season?" These are the downdownsides of the SVT to those guys who enjoy mixing up their airline life with other challenges...


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