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SNIZ 07-30-2007 08:30 AM

Future Contract Issues
 
Ok, the LOA battle is in full swing so no better time to start thinking about our future contract inputs. Here is mine so far:

1. B777 pay equal to A380 pay...gonna need an LOA within a year or so.
2. Scheduling, blunt the effects of the optimizer....thru any means available.
3. Scheduling, be able to trade R-Days for trips.
4. Publish VTO lines 3-4 days earlier in the bid month.

Anyone else?

MD11Fr8Dog 07-30-2007 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by SNIZ (Post 205119)
1. B777 pay equal to A380 pay...gonna need an LOA within a year or so.


But BC says we don't need an LOA because B777 = A380! :rolleyes:

Lindy 07-30-2007 08:43 AM

Veba
 
I think VEBA will need to be expanded or deleted.

The contract age cut-off eliminated quite a few pilots on the Seniority List. I really would hate to use "negotiating capital" on this issue, but it will need to include the other pilots who were not 53 on the day of signng the contract (and those already retired within a certain window).

SNIZ 07-30-2007 08:44 AM

BC said what?
 

Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog (Post 205122)
But BC says we don't need an LOA because B777 = A380! :rolleyes:

Looks to me like Sec. 3 only has the A380 written down. Once again if it isn't in writing......

SNIZ 07-30-2007 08:50 AM

Forgot One
 
Age 60 to remain the normal/accepted retirement age. If you wanna work longer, ok, but no penalty for retiring at 60. Treat it like the DOD treats a 20 year retirement.

MD11Fr8Dog 07-30-2007 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by SNIZ (Post 205128)
Looks to me like Sec. 3 only has the A380 written down. Once again if it isn't in writing......


Yea, I know, but BC says it is in writing. He collected all of the company's press releases since the announcement of the B777 and they supposedly say that B777=A380! ;)

MD11HOG 07-30-2007 09:06 AM

Eliminate the early retirement penalty.
 
In an effort to "mitigate the damage", we should negotiate a full retirement after 25 years. Hopefully, I'll make it to 57 years old here with 25 years of service. I'd like to retire with no penalty. That would be fair and mitigate some of the damage for me.

applefritter 07-30-2007 09:15 AM

Viagra included in the catering for guys 60 and older on VCP trips...:D

MD11Fr8Dog 07-30-2007 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by applefritter (Post 205147)
Viagra included in the catering for guys 60 and older on VCP trips...:D

Kinda gives a whole new meaning to the term "Mini Snack"!;)

Deuce130 07-30-2007 09:28 AM

A-Fund.
Higher pay rates for F/Os (captains, too!) to mitigate Age 60.

I'd say scope, (sarcasm alert) but it was such a cornerstone of the last negotiations that we had to write a new LOA to protect it.


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