IPA gives deadline to UPS
 

Press Release: (Thursday, Nov. 17, 2005)
UPS Pilots: set date certain request for release; claim UPS making big gamble

Thursday, November 17, 2005 (Atlanta) – The Independent Pilots Association has given UPS until December 23 to finalize the contract it began negotiating with its pilots in October 2002.

“It has become clear that UPS’s recent overture for a settlement is not genuine, but a cynical move timed to prevent any disruption during Christmas Peak. Christmas 2005 will be our fourth holiday season during this contract negotiation; that’s long enough,” said Capt. Tom Nicholson, President of the Independent Pilots Association. He went on to say, “UPS has one more shot to deliver a contract that our pilot group can ratify when we get together with the National Mediation Board the week of December 19 thru 23 in Wisconsin.”

Today’s action by the IPA could lead to a strike or lock-out at UPS.

“Only the National Mediation Board can determine if there can be a strike or lock-out at UPS. It’s out of place and very arrogant for UPS to speak for the NMB,” said Capt. Nicholson. He went on to say, “The best indicator as to the inclination of the NMB when it comes to releasing companies and unions is its recent actions. Within the last six-months, the NMB has released the Northwest mechanics, and more relevant to our situation, the pilots at Polar Air Cargo. We would hope that after 38-months of talks, the NMB will follow its charter and allow UPS and the IPA to seek self-help.”

UPS Labor is gambling with the UPS brand, its customers’ businesses and its investor’s money.

“By forcing us into this situation UPS Labor is playing a riverboat game of Texas Hold’em. The group responsible for contract negotiations at UPS has made an ‘all in’ bet that could devalue the UPS brand, scare off customers and lose money for its investors. Unfortunately this is what happens when upper management turns a blind eye on a group of cowboys like UPS Labor,” said Capt. Nicholson.

IPA Ultimatum
 

It is obvious from the "important announcement" the IPA made in Atlanta today, that they do not have a clue as to the resolve of UPS. Rick Barr will never agree to a contract which might require a need for give backs in 2-3 years. The IPA has never been greedier! They are irresponsible and selfish. They will not get the earth, the moon, and the stars. The company will grind the union into the ground if they strike.

Flame bait.

Another UPS college intern want a be posting on here. Get a real life. All day
UPS sucker.

Rick Barr doesn't have the power or authority to requisition a toilet much less negotiate a pilot contract. Brian McCabe and Tony Coleman (who doesn't even work for UPS) are the ones negotiating for the company. Barr has only been to a few sessions and then only as a figurehead. He has NO power to do anything with this contract. McCabe and Coleman get their orders strictly from Atlanta not 1400 N Hurstbourne or the GOC!

You guys are the wannabes. You will never be anything more than "scum bag" freight pilots. You only deserve "scum bag" wages.....not wages like what the Delta professionals were getting

Very good observation. We are nothing more than "scumbag" freight pilots. But at least we are going to get the contract we deserve. Thanks for figuring us out. By the way you should change your screen name to UPS SUCKUP

I think this is what you're afraid of. Do you think the boxheads in ATL will see the need to continue pay mgmt pilots the big bucks should they decide to replace us? Hell no. Your pay is based somewhat on our pay. UPS hates pilots -- line or mgmt. They will say the "air division currently is not profitable" and "we need to cut costs" while rebuilding the airline. You know how this place works. The company may see this as a golden opportunity to cut your pay in half as well!

Who are these two guys? Soyasauce and UPS (CPT) Suckup?

Are they interns? Guys who didn't get hired? Fred Smith? Mike Eskew? Who?

UPS CPT is Houston the Goose flyer!

I'm Mike Eskew oops no I'm not I'm to busy evaluating the replacement pilots and finalizing the contingency plans for the brown out at peak. So I'm not Mike Eskew.

I'm Fred Smith oops wrong again I'm counting the money I'm going to make and also working on a contigency plan during the brown out at peak. I'm also wanting to sign my pilots now so they won't have me backed into a corner since UPS is not flying from the strike.

I'm the guy who didn't get hired, no not him either because I'm in ground school getting ready to take your seat when you strike.

I'm the intern, nope not him either. I have no money to have a computer let alone internet access since they don't get paid.

Black cow needs help with the paranoid behaviour

UPS CPT are you for real? I just stumbled on to this site, and I can't believe what I am reading. It resonates of an old tech web forum that got out of control during contract time. Speaking for a few UPS Techs I hope you boys find your way out of the clouds. We'll be there for the IPA. We're next Aug 06. Wish you and us luck.
UPS SDF MD11 TECH.

UPS...... I hate to say this..... But, enough is enough...... I truely echo your resolve......Best of luck with your contract endeavors.

Suckups
 

Those "two guys" are obviously not line pilots for UPS. Don't let them fool you. Have you ever met a pilot as weak as they appear to be?

exactly right.
 

No. Seeing management on this board is nice, as it gives us their honest opinions about us. What a way to make this group even more cohesive.

I don't have a dog in this hunt but I've just got to say WTF. UPS (and Fedex) make billions in profits each year. Those profits are based on getting a package from "A" to "B". No package - no profit. Pilot pay as a percentage of total operational cost is so miniscule as to be laughable. This is not so in pax airlines, because the infrastructure at the major package operators is so huge compared with pax, where you only take them from airport to airport. UPS pilots will win out in the end, there's no real incentive for management to push this one.

These guys are mangement. Not even pilots. If it is Houston, well, you were 150% IPA, and then sold out for personal profit. Semper Fi, Brother, what a crock, and what a self-important jerk. Enjoy your time in Ont. You are done.

BrownBusDriver