UPS 748s
 

Willing to bet a round at Stormies in HKG that we will announce an order of 800-F's by the end of the year. I'm wagering the Dubai Airshow.....what say you Mini-Boss?

TB;)

TB,

I'll take that bet and raise you two blondies at Sticky Fingers that UPS does not announce that order. Why say I ? I don't feel UPS is a leader when it comes to aircraft acquistions. They seem to be methodical and make a move when the risk is low and others have established a track record in the specified arena of discussion.

I hope I am totally wrong, and if so; I have two blondies lined up at the "Finger".

With Regards,

FF

I'll see you, call the two blondes at sticky fingers and raise you a Columbian from Wan Chai.
I win. No such animal as an 800-F.
Read it and weep and pay up sucka'
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747...ackground.html

Glad I didn't buy stock in Airbus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, we "led" purple to buy 757s! :D

Brunettes out of the question? ;)

That's right, but there's -8 F

We'll buy all the old jets (400's) that CargoLux, Lufthansa, Singapore, etc. won't want once they get their "ocho's".

Now that it's settled, let's discuss this over some brunettes at Neptunes.

Hell of a way to network there ryguy! How's everything at CX?

Well I do what I can for the cause hahaha! So far so good, got sim 10 on Fri. then the rides. It's been great, I keep waiting for the training monster to rear its ugly head but so far the guys have been cool. I'd like to see better manuals that have the callouts etc. in them but even that hasen't been that bad. Think I'll stick around for a while and keep my chair warm watching the scenery on "the street".

For the historians, did UPS have their 757s before DHL. Are there any other 757 F operators besides these two (and soon-FDX) ?

Thanks, I still don't think UPS will be on the forefront of the 747 "ocho" scene. I think they will chomp on the leftovers as carriers unload their -400s to get the ocho.

See ya at the "Finger". I'm easy to spot, I sing Kareoke during the non-kareoke nights.

FF

ps. Cargolux is the launch customer for the -800...and I have never seen a Columbian in Wan Chai or Long Fung Dung or Fing Fang Fung or anywhere else over here :D:D:D

For what it's worth, Leadpipes told me they are WAY too expensive, so you may be on to something! My bet is they'll grab up beat up pax birds and convert them and then complain about reliability.

Watch out for zee Germans Tommy!:D

hmmm, my source fell down lan kwai fong and spontaneously combusted.

In all seriousness though, pretty good gouge on this one.
If they deny it then it must be true!

Later, TB:cool:

They would be the blondes that speak Spanish instead of Russian and are not so pale.

Correct...that's what the link I posted leads you to.

Is that awesome filipino band still at the Finger? Hot lead, Stevie Ray Vaughn guitarist? Loved that place. Hope I get "the call" and a job. If I do, first rounds on me!
Cheers,

Z

I believe we were the launch customer of the 757PF. Before there was a UPS airlie actually.

Well, I think Atlas is the launch customer for the -8

Atlas Air 747-8 Launch Customer - U.S.
 

Actually, we're the U.S. launch customer, I believe Cargolux and ANA were the original launch customer for the -8s

Wasn't Challenge Air Cargo the launch customer for the 757 freighter?, UPS got those aircraft added to their fleet after the purchase of Challenge at MIA

Nope. Big Brown was the launch customer for the 757-200F (or PF).
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/757...ilestones.html

challenge
 

Giant pilot...

ups bought challenge for the routes only...there were no airplanes or pilots that went along with the deal...

Pilot7576

I believe that Challenge got their 757's in '89, 2 years after UPS did.

I remember the Challenge purchase, I live in Miami, and remember what happened to the pilots in the deal, but was not aware that the aircraft was not part of the deal also. Thanks!

The aircraft went back to the "leasing" company, and were subsequently dispersed around the world, so much so, DHL may have all 3 of them by now, but there was a 4th 757pf built by the factory for Zambia airways, back in 89-90, i was in Zambia when it arrived and it too i believe is flying for DHL now after Zambian went fins up in the tank. UPS was the launch for the 57 frieghter. They wish they had 30 more of them now, and as for Boeing, they wish they still made them, the 57 had picked up the cargo where the 27 left off and the 67 was just a little too big to justify.
RD.

Uhh...yeah. Isn't that exactly what I said? UPS was the launch customer.

Read Closely
 

Uhh...yeah, that IS exactly what YOU said, I was just stating the YEAR Challenge got theirs..................Sorry to offend:confused:

I don't even work at UPS but I recall that Ryan got some of, if not the first, 757PFs and then flew them for UPS. This was around '87-'88.

My bad. I misunderstood your post. No offense taken and none implied.
:D

Bro, No Problem..............I think we both misunderstood each other. Beer's on me if we ever meet up in ANC or HKG

UPS was the first to purchase the 757 pf. This was before UPS became an airline. Ryan was the first to fly the 757 on behalf of UPS. Ryan did not own the aircraft. UPS did.

Looks like that is the most correct answer. Boeing shows the 757pf going into service on 09/28/87 with UPS...but UPS didn't get it's own air carrier certificate until the next year.