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TangoBar 10-16-2007 01:02 AM


Originally Posted by flyfast (Post 224751)
If a SWA pilot has to go through that BS to ride, they should drop the agreement. That's not right!


Whether it's right or not is immaterial- it's not like AMF wants that stuff. It's required for security (likely TSA). The AMF CP has to act as "Ground Security Coordinator" and whatnot, the stuff that's handled by TSA with their X-ray machines and metal detectors and omnipresent "Your luggage has been searched for your safety and convenience" pamphlets in a real terminal. Keep in mind, most AMF operations happen on small airports that don't have full-time (or any) security aside from a fence- and not even that at a lot of places.

Oldog 01-13-2010 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by Mrsmith42e (Post 222778)
Hey people,

I am interest in working for Ameriflight out in Burbank, CA. However, I do not understand what they mean on the airline profile page by

"Ameriflight currently has a reciprocal agreement only with Southwest"

What is a reciprocal agreement?

thanks

A reciprocal jumpseat agreement is an agreement between airlines whereby each airline will allow the other airline's pilots -- and sometimes other personnel -- to travel free on a space available basis. Subject to some limitations, this can include cockpit jumpseats. Very convenient, but there are some risks: Chiefly, that you may get "bumped" off the jumpseat by someone with higher priority, such as one of the company's own pilots, an FAA inspector, etc.

It's important to remember that any jumpseat ride is a courtesy extended to the jumpseater by the airline providing the ride. A very fast way to poison the well (and maybe get the jumpseat agreement canceled) is to act rude, pushy, try to talk your way aboard after you've been denied, show up looking like a crud, etc.

fedupbusdriver 01-13-2010 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Oldog (Post 743703)
A reciprocal jumpseat agreement is an agreement between airlines whereby each airline will allow the other airline's pilots -- and sometimes other personnel -- to travel free on a space available basis. Subject to some limitations, this can include cockpit jumpseats. Very convenient, but there are some risks: Chiefly, that you may get "bumped" off the jumpseat by someone with higher priority, such as one of the company's own pilots, an FAA inspector, etc.

It's important to remember that any jumpseat ride is a courtesy extended to the jumpseater by the airline providing the ride. A very fast way to poison the well (and maybe get the jumpseat agreement canceled) is to act rude, pushy, try to talk your way aboard after you've been denied, show up looking like a crud, etc.

You just answered a question that was asked 2 1/2 years ago. He probably googled it by now.:eek:

Zapata 01-13-2010 04:41 PM

On behalf of Mrsmith42e, Thanks!

fedupbusdriver 01-13-2010 04:43 PM

I think he passed away two winters ago.

Oldog 05-30-2010 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Mrsmith42e (Post 222778)
Hey people,

I am interest in working for Ameriflight out in Burbank, CA. However, I do not understand what they mean on the airline profile page by

"Ameriflight currently has a reciprocal agreement only with Southwest"

What is a reciprocal agreement?

thanks

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Oldog 05-30-2010 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by fedupbusdriver (Post 743707)
You just answered a question that was asked 2 1/2 years ago. He probably googled it by now.:eek:

Yeah, I know . . . but it's an area that's frequently misunderstood.

Oldog 05-30-2010 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by TangoBar (Post 247832)
Whether it's right or not is immaterial- it's not like AMF wants that stuff. It's required for security (likely TSA). The AMF CP has to act as "Ground Security Coordinator" and whatnot, the stuff that's handled by TSA with their X-ray machines and metal detectors and omnipresent "Your luggage has been searched for your safety and convenience" pamphlets in a real terminal. Keep in mind, most AMF operations happen on small airports that don't have full-time (or any) security aside from a fence- and not even that at a lot of places.

(a) Airline passengers (and crews) have to go through essentially the same "BS" at the terminal security checkpoint, using more sophisticated equipment than is available on the freight ramp. And yes, the CASS check, bag search, pat down, etc., are prequired by Ameriflight's TSA security program.

(b) AMF has trips that will get SWA pilots back home after the last SWA flight from the domicile has already gone -- a more desirable option, some of them think, that RONing and going home the next morning. In some cases, those SWA folks are in airplanes, and on routes, that they used to fly. . . .

Continuingappch 01-16-2021 03:14 AM

AMF has reciprocals with several carriers now. I jumpseated from Florida to Alaska with Alaska Airlines in October, piece of cake.

RyeMex 01-16-2021 05:42 AM

Holy resurrected thread, Batman!


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