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Old 10-16-2007, 01:02 AM   #11  
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If a SWA pilot has to go through that BS to ride, they should drop the agreement. That's not right!

Whether it's right or not is immaterial- it's not like AMF wants that stuff. It's required for security (likely TSA). The AMF CP has to act as "Ground Security Coordinator" and whatnot, the stuff that's handled by TSA with their X-ray machines and metal detectors and omnipresent "Your luggage has been searched for your safety and convenience" pamphlets in a real terminal. Keep in mind, most AMF operations happen on small airports that don't have full-time (or any) security aside from a fence- and not even that at a lot of places.
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Hey people,

I am interest in working for Ameriflight out in Burbank, CA. However, I do not understand what they mean on the airline profile page by

"Ameriflight currently has a reciprocal agreement only with Southwest"

What is a reciprocal agreement?

thanks
A reciprocal jumpseat agreement is an agreement between airlines whereby each airline will allow the other airline's pilots -- and sometimes other personnel -- to travel free on a space available basis. Subject to some limitations, this can include cockpit jumpseats. Very convenient, but there are some risks: Chiefly, that you may get "bumped" off the jumpseat by someone with higher priority, such as one of the company's own pilots, an FAA inspector, etc.

It's important to remember that any jumpseat ride is a courtesy extended to the jumpseater by the airline providing the ride. A very fast way to poison the well (and maybe get the jumpseat agreement canceled) is to act rude, pushy, try to talk your way aboard after you've been denied, show up looking like a crud, etc.
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Old 01-13-2010, 04:37 PM   #13  
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A reciprocal jumpseat agreement is an agreement between airlines whereby each airline will allow the other airline's pilots -- and sometimes other personnel -- to travel free on a space available basis. Subject to some limitations, this can include cockpit jumpseats. Very convenient, but there are some risks: Chiefly, that you may get "bumped" off the jumpseat by someone with higher priority, such as one of the company's own pilots, an FAA inspector, etc.

It's important to remember that any jumpseat ride is a courtesy extended to the jumpseater by the airline providing the ride. A very fast way to poison the well (and maybe get the jumpseat agreement canceled) is to act rude, pushy, try to talk your way aboard after you've been denied, show up looking like a crud, etc.
You just answered a question that was asked 2 1/2 years ago. He probably googled it by now.
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On behalf of Mrsmith42e, Thanks!
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I think he passed away two winters ago.
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Hey people,

I am interest in working for Ameriflight out in Burbank, CA. However, I do not understand what they mean on the airline profile page by

"Ameriflight currently has a reciprocal agreement only with Southwest"

What is a reciprocal agreement?

thanks
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Old 05-30-2010, 07:06 PM   #17  
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You just answered a question that was asked 2 1/2 years ago. He probably googled it by now.
Yeah, I know . . . but it's an area that's frequently misunderstood.
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Old 05-30-2010, 07:12 PM   #18  
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Whether it's right or not is immaterial- it's not like AMF wants that stuff. It's required for security (likely TSA). The AMF CP has to act as "Ground Security Coordinator" and whatnot, the stuff that's handled by TSA with their X-ray machines and metal detectors and omnipresent "Your luggage has been searched for your safety and convenience" pamphlets in a real terminal. Keep in mind, most AMF operations happen on small airports that don't have full-time (or any) security aside from a fence- and not even that at a lot of places.
(a) Airline passengers (and crews) have to go through essentially the same "BS" at the terminal security checkpoint, using more sophisticated equipment than is available on the freight ramp. And yes, the CASS check, bag search, pat down, etc., are prequired by Ameriflight's TSA security program.

(b) AMF has trips that will get SWA pilots back home after the last SWA flight from the domicile has already gone -- a more desirable option, some of them think, that RONing and going home the next morning. In some cases, those SWA folks are in airplanes, and on routes, that they used to fly. . . .
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