Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Cargo (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/cargo/)
-   -   Ameriflight Travel Benefits question. (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/cargo/16358-ameriflight-travel-benefits-question.html)

Mrsmith42e 08-29-2007 06:01 AM

Ameriflight Travel Benefits question.
 
Hey people,

I am interest in working for Ameriflight out in Burbank, CA. However, I do not understand what they mean on the airline profile page by

"Ameriflight currently has a reciprocal agreement only with Southwest"

What is a reciprocal agreement?

thanks

742drvr 08-29-2007 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrsmith42e (Post 222778)
Hey people,

I am interest in working for Ameriflight out in Burbank, CA. However, I do not understand what they mean on the airline profile page by

"Ameriflight currently has a reciprocal agreement only with Southwest"

What is a reciprocal agreement?

thanks

Jumpseat agreement probably.

UFO Driver 08-29-2007 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 742drvr (Post 222811)
Jumpseat agreement probably.

That's exactly what it means. Each company signs a letter of agreement defining who is allowed to jumpseat on their airplanes and what the procedures are to do so. They usually include preferred dress codes and other pertinent information. They are normally signed by a designated company jumpseat coordinator and the company D/O. The reciprocal part means that each letter of agreement is in exchange for the same privilege on the other carrier with whom the specific letter of agreement is addressed to. Hope this helps.

UFO Driver 08-29-2007 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrsmith42e (Post 222778)
Hey people,

I am interest in working for Ameriflight out in Burbank, CA. However, I do not understand what they mean on the airline profile page by

"Ameriflight currently has a reciprocal agreement only with Southwest"

What is a reciprocal agreement?

thanks

Specific to this situation, Southwest is the only carrier that has a signed agreement with Ameriflight. That allows Ameriflight pilots to jumpseat on Southwest.

Giggity 08-29-2007 09:14 PM

Can Southwest pilots jump on Ameriflight?

UFO Driver 08-30-2007 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giggity (Post 223310)
Can Southwest pilots jump on Ameriflight?

That's usually the case with reciprocal agreements. Not sure if the Southwest pilots would actually ride along, but I'm guessing it would be authorized by the agreement.

azvandriver 08-30-2007 10:50 PM

Ameriflight has a reciprocal agreement with Southwest, but is in CASS. In most cases it is up to the captain's discression, and being in CASS helps. USUALLY you can get on with most other carriers. That is what I have been told by Ameriflight and a few other people.

I am going from a non-CASS 121 carrier with many reciprocal agreements to Ameriflight with CASS and one agreement. Cabin only on Southwest always meant a middle seat. Maybe the real jumpseat is a little more comfortable.

TangoBar 09-01-2007 03:21 PM

Amflight Jumpseating
 
Ameriflight currently has a reciprocal agreement with Southwest, and SWA flightcrew are allowed to jumpseat, although it is by no means as pleasant as walking up a jetway- the SWA flightcremember would have to prearrange the ride, and the AMF captain has to make like the TSA and do a patdown/baggage inspection. I have heard of some SWA crew have taken advantage of the empty seat on most AMF for semi-regular rides, though it's a small number.

Aside from SWA, it is possible for AMF CPs to ride on other carriers, IF the gate agent and Captain of the flight decide to allow it. Out of BUR, it's not hard, but it may change the farther away from BUR you get. Horizon seems to be fairly routine out of PDX, though smaller communities that don't see jumpseaters often can get prickly. Being in CASS helps, but I'm not sure if other carriers allow AMF CPs to ride in the jumpseat since there's no recip agreement.

Also, don't count on getting in the cockpit- the jumpseat is usually reserved for when there is no other option, and it's still the Captain's call. Remember, the only people the Captain is obligated to allow up there is the FAA- on an SWA flight, I've sat next to SWA pilots jumpseating in the main cabin (and had great conversations that way!) I've also heard of at least one jumpseater who nearly killed his airline's rep by sticking his head in the flight deck and saying "Hey, I'm riding with you guys today!" Not smart. Any free seat is a free seat- treat it like gold.

flyfast 09-02-2007 09:02 AM

If a SWA pilot has to go through that BS to ride, they should drop the agreement. That's not right!

CAL99 10-14-2007 09:36 PM

Dear UFO Driver,

I have a question loosely based on this thread. If you're employed by a Regional, National, or legacy carrier (all-CASS), what travel benefits can be enjoyed by your immediate family members?

Thanks,

Cal99


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:26 PM.


User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright 2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands