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Old 09-03-2007, 12:27 PM
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Ouchhhh! That'll leave a mark..... Agree on the time for moving on. Looking for the best candidate to emerge. Prereq's are pretty intense. Not many qualified floks out there.
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Old 09-03-2007, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT View Post
No personnal battle at all Micro, but when somone flames a guy by name who spent the better part of 5 years training, preparing, gathering data, listening to the vocal minority cast stones from the sideline, take max heat from the company, lands a better (than before) contract in a measured, professional way and gets "don't let the door hit you in the A$$ on the way out", I think it's a cheap classless low rent shot. As for your question about my involvement: currently Pilot to Pilot, previously Comm Chair (1 year), Previously Block Rep (2yrs). As to the hard sell on the CBA, the voting #'s don't bear that out. They performed the statutory road shows and infomercials and said "read it, We think you will like it". Judging from the membership vote (turnout as well as passing majority) I think they were right. As to the recent LOA, you and I are in agreement. I voted no. I agree the MEC and NC did a poor job of pulsing the CF on their desires and failed in the fundamental responsibility of keeping us up to date. I do not, however, think that failure wipes out the NC's entire body of work over the past 6 years. Finally, well, Gee, I am saying get involved (more than P2P). Because it takes more involvment than that to effect real change. And it sure beats just throwing ones hands up and saying I tried, its hopeless. For sure that will result in no improvement.
Ok, my comment was probably inappropriate. However, I'll stand by my comments on the contract and LOA's. I don't think the contract passed by the margin it did because it was great. I think it passed like it did for a number of reasons:
1. Hard Sell (I know you disagree but that's how I see it- see DW's "red letter").
2. Membership tired of negotiations and wanting to just move on.
3. "Lemming" attitude of many in the crewforce by stating "my NC speaks for me", NOT reading the contract, and voting for it just because the NC said so.
I think the contract is overall substandard and time will bear that out. We gave up a lot in this contract for a long haul grid, health care for retired crewmembers, and a so called "improvement" in scope. The thing that effects us the most in our monthly lives-workrules (and the area I think most guys expected improvements) was an overall failure and we're going to pay for it. The "leave no-one behind" rhetoric was a failure; which I hope the next Neg chair doesn't do.
We can disagree on how good we think the contract is or not. Time will tell. If I'm wrong the beers are on me.

Last edited by Micro; 09-03-2007 at 12:46 PM. Reason: spelling and probably still wrong
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