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AKBeemer 09-13-2007 06:45 AM

Local Papers...
 
So just getting back from an 11 day, Typhoon, 6 revision screw job of Asia.

I was wondering if any of my fellow crewmembers ever leave newspapers on board the AC for the next crew who may have not been home in a while.

Is it really so hard to get your FREE copy of the Anchorage daily news/USA today from the front desk and leave it in one of the cubby holes... If you think it is liberal crap, fine dont read it. Just put it in the glove compartment unread.

Busboy 09-13-2007 07:03 AM

What a sweet-talker, you are.

Of course, after the trip you briefly described. I guess you should get a pass.:rolleyes:

I leave mine in the cubby hole. But, you'll have to check the airbus cockpits to find it.

MaydayMark 09-13-2007 07:07 AM

I try to leave the newspaper and my copy of Aviation Week when I'm done with it also ... (but just for the record, I would NEVER actually read those documents while I'm flying)

MD11Fr8Dog 09-13-2007 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 230193)
I try to leave the newspaper and my copy of Aviation Week when I'm done with it also ... (but just for the record, I would NEVER actually read those documents while I'm flying)

Hey gotta read something while taking care of your physiological need!;)

PastV1 09-13-2007 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog (Post 230204)
Hey gotta read something while taking care of your physiological need!;)

There's a mental picutre I didn't need!

That's why I bring Playboy.. ;)

md11phlyer 09-13-2007 10:34 AM

The first lesson I got on IOE was to ALWAYS bring an ADN with you when leaving Anchorage for Asia. I do it going domestic as well. For those that do I thank you very much, it offers much needed relief from the SCMS and the IHT.

MD11Fr8Dog 09-13-2007 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by PastV1 (Post 230233)
There's a mental picutre I didn't need!

That's why I bring Playboy.. ;)

You don't have a laptop? ;)

Huck 09-13-2007 12:32 PM

MSNBC.com has a podcast during weekdays of NBC News. It's free. Meet the Press on Sundays also.

Jetjok 09-13-2007 12:42 PM

Sorry to say this, but it's really getting out of hand with this sense of entitlement that the author brings to this thread. Since when is it someones job to plan for and then to provide reading material for the next guys who inherit the jet. Whatever happened to prior planning? When I was on the Mad Dog, if I was going international, or even a long domestic trip, I always brought reading material, or DVD's. If, by the end of the trip, we had all finished reading said material, I left it on the jet. However, don't TELL me it's my responsibility to do that. If you want something to read, bring it your damn self!

FLMD11CAPT 09-13-2007 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Jetjok (Post 230332)
Sorry to say this, but it's really getting out of hand with this sense of entitlement that the author brings to this thread. Since when is it someones job to plan for and then to provide reading material for the next guys who inherit the jet. Whatever happened to prior planning? When I was on the Mad Dog, if I was going international, or even a long domestic trip, I always brought reading material, or DVD's. If, by the end of the trip, we had all finished reading said material, I left it on the jet. However, don't TELL me it's my responsibility to do that. If you want something to read, bring it your damn self!

Yer gett'in old JJ........losing your filter........or maybe you are just ****ed you can't do the "Asia" thing any more........in any event.....I always leave at least one US paper in the reading locker for those who come after. It's the little things that seem to count most.....that and not being mean spirited..;)

md11phlyer 09-13-2007 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Jetjok (Post 230332)
Sorry to say this, but it's really getting out of hand with this sense of entitlement that the author brings to this thread. Since when is it someones job to plan for and then to provide reading material for the next guys who inherit the jet. Whatever happened to prior planning? When I was on the Mad Dog, if I was going international, or even a long domestic trip, I always brought reading material, or DVD's. If, by the end of the trip, we had all finished reading said material, I left it on the jet. However, don't TELL me it's my responsibility to do that. If you want something to read, bring it your damn self!

JJ, that doesn't sound like peaceful resting. ;)

I think the point was that it's nice to see the local paper when you're stuck out in the outer planets for a few days. I don't think he meant any disrespect, 11 days and 6 revisions can break your polite writing skills.

It also seems that bringing the ADN to Asia for the next crew is a bit of an ANC tradition. Most guys make sure to do it. It's kind of like your cookie deal in MEM. :p

Huck 09-13-2007 01:39 PM


JJ, that doesn't sound like peaceful resting.
He ain't reading this - he's back in the backyard, burning ants with a magnifying glass....;)

fedupbusdriver 09-13-2007 02:20 PM

Next thing you know, he'll be asking that you please, not do the crossword or sudoku!!!!:D

USMCFDX 09-13-2007 03:17 PM

I always leave a paper or a book if I'm done with it. I always thought everyone did the same?

Jetjok 09-13-2007 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by Huck (Post 230374)
He ain't reading this - he's back in the backyard, burning ants with a magnifying glass....;)

Not true! It was only about 74 degrees today so the sun didn't provide enough heat, even with a magnifying glass to burn ants. However, two days ago the cardiac surgeon pronounced me fit to resume whatever "things" I wanted to do, so a portion of today was spent reacquainting myself with a racquetball court. It wasn't pretty, but it sure felt good.:D

My point about the reading material was that it's ok to expect those before you to provide for you, however, it's not ok to chastise someone for not doing that. Besides, is there anywhere we now fly where a computer is not available, so that if you really care about what's going on back here, you could easily log on and click away to your hearts content. Even in places like Seoul and Osaka, where you're limited to one half hour (free computer time) per visit, you can still expense additional computer time, can't you?

Normy! 09-13-2007 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by Jetjok (Post 230332)
Sorry to say this, but it's really getting out of hand with this sense of entitlement that the author brings to this thread. Since when is it someones job to plan for and then to provide reading material for the next guys who inherit the jet. Whatever happened to prior planning? When I was on the Mad Dog, if I was going international, or even a long domestic trip, I always brought reading material, or DVD's. If, by the end of the trip, we had all finished reading said material, I left it on the jet. However, don't TELL me it's my responsibility to do that. If you want something to read, bring it your damn self!

-I for one caught the message... and I fully agree! ;)

For what it is worth...I have a whole bunch of car magazines floating around the house, along with Men's Health and a few other interesting periodicals. I've been thinking about putting them in the library at AOC. Do we have to ask to do that?

Huck 09-13-2007 05:08 PM

When I moved I carried three storage boxes full of books to the AOC. Had to borrow a hand truck. Nobody said anything. Most of the books were gone quick - people check those shelves more than you might think.

Jetjok 09-13-2007 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by Huck (Post 230483)
When I moved I carried three storage boxes full of books to the AOC. Had to borrow a hand truck. Nobody said anything. Most of the books were gone quick - people check those shelves more than you might think.

Very surprising indeed as I didn't think there was any market at all for all those old B-727 and Airbus Aircraft Operation Manuals.:D

And speaking of Aircraft Operation Manuals as well as Flight Operation Manuals, I hope everyone is shredding their old manuals. Either that or bringing them back into the AOC for disposal. No reason to just put them in the trash as you never know who looks through that stuff.:mad:

Huck 09-13-2007 05:46 PM


Very surprising indeed as I didn't think there was any market at all for all those old B-727 and Airbus Aircraft Operation Manuals.
The old Hustler bound volumes went first. And my autographed copy of Elton John's anatomy texts.....

AKBeemer 09-13-2007 06:24 PM

JJ, sorry if I offended you with my sense of entitlement. I did not mean to chastise anyone, and yes I bring my own reading material with me.

I leave a paper everytime when leaving ANC, South or West. We picked up 4 planes that arrived direct from ANC and all were empty.

All im saying is it would be nice. :)

nightfreight 09-13-2007 07:13 PM

Beemer,

A much nicer approach this time. Now I'll leave you a paper...

TheBaron 09-13-2007 07:26 PM

I start each trip with 3-4 magazines that I then leave in the airplane. It's nice to see a somewhat current US paper when you've been hub turning through Subic and bouncing around Asia for 10 days.

Jetjok 09-14-2007 04:35 AM

How about this for an idea... Now that you Mad Dog guys no longer have to carry Jepps, plus the fact that the company just published an FCIF stating that shortly, guys would no longer be required to carry the FOM, I think it's only right that each Captain, whenever starting an international trip (Canada excluded), be required to pick up and carry a minimum of 5 Wall Street Journals, to be left on the jets, for the succeeding crews. Under the "Division of Duties" rule, the First Officer will be required to carry and distribute a minimum of 5 copies of the Commercial Appeal, or if departing from Anchorage, 5 copies of The Anchorage Daily News, for those who want to keep up on who was just hauled off to jail for drunk and disorderly, etc. If the crew consists of a RFO, then he should be required to carry an unspecified number of National Geographic or other picture-laden magazines, so that the follow-on crews can have something to look at, once they are done with the WSJ or the local rag. After all, it's only fair. What do you think?:D

pig on the wing 09-14-2007 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Jetjok (Post 230693)
How about this for an idea... Now that you Mad Dog guys no longer have to carry Jepps, plus the fact that the company just published an FCIF stating that shortly, guys would no longer be required to carry the FOM, I think it's only right that each Captain, whenever starting an international trip (Canada excluded), be required to pick up and carry a minimum of 5 Wall Street Journals, to be left on the jets, for the succeeding crews. Under the "Division of Duties" rule, the First Officer will be required to carry and distribute a minimum of 5 copies of the Commercial Appeal, or if departing from Anchorage, 5 copies of The Anchorage Daily News, for those who want to keep up on who was just hauled off to jail for drunk and disorderly, etc. If the crew consists of a RFO, then he should be required to carry an unspecified number of National Geographic or other picture-laden magazines, so that the follow-on crews can have something to look at, once they are done with the WSJ or the local rag. After all, it's only fair. What do you think?:D

wow, i think someone needs a hug. I'm with AKBeemer. The ADN is a bit of a rag but there is nothing like picking up a jet in PVG and finding a newspaper waiting. I;m ANC based and have always left my paper on the jet and hope more do the same.


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