UPS to suspend hiring THROUGH 2008
10-06-2007, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyByCable
I've hear upwards or 600+ crewmembers in ANC. Pretty much any newhire, except for the first batch of hires when we started hiring again in late 2004, is at risk for being displaced to ANC.
And yet again....OH NOOOOOO the sky is falling! There are just a shade under 3000 on property and @250 in ANC now. @ 700 have been hired since
'04. So maybe another 350 to ANC? I'm not following your math about any new hire except the '04 guys. The ANC base is a cluster right now, I don't think they can handle more than 400 total up there for the forseeable future.
10-06-2007, 06:39 PM
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Here's a rough breakdown of the most junior 500 pilots at UPS in 100 pilot blocks with the hire date for the most junior pilot within that block of 100 - although not scientific by any means, it's useful for showing the 'big picture.'
Bottom 100 - 10/01/07 (~53 in ANC)
Next 100 - 05/16/07 (~56 in ANC)
Next 100 - 01/16/07 (~5 in ANC)
Next 100 - 09/12/06 (~5 in ANC)
Next 100 - 10/25/05 (~5 in ANC)
Bottom 100 - 10/01/07 (~53 in ANC)
Next 100 - 05/16/07 (~56 in ANC)
Next 100 - 01/16/07 (~5 in ANC)
Next 100 - 09/12/06 (~5 in ANC)
Next 100 - 10/25/05 (~5 in ANC)
10-06-2007, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyByCable
I've hear upwards or 600+ crewmembers in ANC. Pretty much any newhire, except for the first batch of hires when we started hiring again in late 2004, is at risk for being displaced to ANC.
10-07-2007, 01:38 PM
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600 in ANC ? Are we planning on taking over Alaska Airlines ???
All we need is to qualify all the new hires hired for the domicile. In the current bid package almost 55 out of 113 F/Os were not qualified to bid. That is roughly half.
Unless you know of some massive marketing plan to buy and put in ANC, 15 more MD11s and have them next year (doubtful) and pickup 20 more 747-400 next year then the 600 number is pie in the sky.
First off, where are you going to park the airplanes, during most pushes we only have 3-4 open parking positions. We would need to double the parking positions from 12 to approx 22.
Second, by year's end we will have approximately 220 pilots based in ANC (150 F/Os and almost 70 Cpts). I find it hard to believe we are going to displace to/hire 380 more pilots to ANC.
Lions, tigers and bears, oh my...but I don't see 600 in ANC for quite a few years.
Time will tell....
As far as suspending hiring, I'd agree with that. With getting to know the 747-400, the backlog in MD11 training and the upcoming displacement bid, the training dept will be up to it's eyeballs in alligators for awhile. So yes, new hire training might be put off until the log jam is alleviated.
Again, just my two cents, your mileage may vary under certain conditions......
FF
All we need is to qualify all the new hires hired for the domicile. In the current bid package almost 55 out of 113 F/Os were not qualified to bid. That is roughly half.
Unless you know of some massive marketing plan to buy and put in ANC, 15 more MD11s and have them next year (doubtful) and pickup 20 more 747-400 next year then the 600 number is pie in the sky.
First off, where are you going to park the airplanes, during most pushes we only have 3-4 open parking positions. We would need to double the parking positions from 12 to approx 22.
Second, by year's end we will have approximately 220 pilots based in ANC (150 F/Os and almost 70 Cpts). I find it hard to believe we are going to displace to/hire 380 more pilots to ANC.
Lions, tigers and bears, oh my...but I don't see 600 in ANC for quite a few years.
Time will tell....
As far as suspending hiring, I'd agree with that. With getting to know the 747-400, the backlog in MD11 training and the upcoming displacement bid, the training dept will be up to it's eyeballs in alligators for awhile. So yes, new hire training might be put off until the log jam is alleviated.
Again, just my two cents, your mileage may vary under certain conditions......
FF
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10-07-2007, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FliFast
600 in ANC ? Are we planning on taking over Alaska Airlines ???
All we need is to qualify all the new hires hired for the domicile. In the current bid package almost 55 out of 113 F/Os were not qualified to bid. That is roughly half.
Unless you know of some massive marketing plan to buy and put in ANC, 15 more MD11s and have them next year (doubtful) and pickup 20 more 747-400 next year then the 600 number is pie in the sky.
First off, where are you going to park the airplanes, during most pushes we only have 3-4 open parking positions. We would need to double the parking positions from 12 to approx 22.
Second, by year's end we will have approximately 220 pilots based in ANC (150 F/Os and almost 70 Cpts). I find it hard to believe we are going to displace to/hire 380 more pilots to ANC.
Lions, tigers and bears, oh my...but I don't see 600 in ANC for quite a few years.
Time will tell....
As far as suspending hiring, I'd agree with that. With getting to know the 747-400, the backlog in MD11 training and the upcoming displacement bid, the training dept will be up to it's eyeballs in alligators for awhile. So yes, new hire training might be put off until the log jam is alleviated.
Again, just my two cents, your mileage may vary under certain conditions......
FF
All we need is to qualify all the new hires hired for the domicile. In the current bid package almost 55 out of 113 F/Os were not qualified to bid. That is roughly half.
Unless you know of some massive marketing plan to buy and put in ANC, 15 more MD11s and have them next year (doubtful) and pickup 20 more 747-400 next year then the 600 number is pie in the sky.
First off, where are you going to park the airplanes, during most pushes we only have 3-4 open parking positions. We would need to double the parking positions from 12 to approx 22.
Second, by year's end we will have approximately 220 pilots based in ANC (150 F/Os and almost 70 Cpts). I find it hard to believe we are going to displace to/hire 380 more pilots to ANC.
Lions, tigers and bears, oh my...but I don't see 600 in ANC for quite a few years.
Time will tell....
As far as suspending hiring, I'd agree with that. With getting to know the 747-400, the backlog in MD11 training and the upcoming displacement bid, the training dept will be up to it's eyeballs in alligators for awhile. So yes, new hire training might be put off until the log jam is alleviated.
Again, just my two cents, your mileage may vary under certain conditions......
FF
Well thought-out and rational posts like that are not allowed here because they don't scare people. Good post!
(Disclaimer: We are talking about UPS, so all bets are out the window when it comes to common sense!)
10-07-2007, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FliFast
First off, where are you going to park the airplanes, during most pushes we only have 3-4 open parking positions. We would need to double the parking positions from 12 to approx 22.
10-07-2007, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyByCable
According to a source in UPS HR, UPS is going to suspend hiring through all of 2008. They will run the few classes remaining this year and that will be it for newhires. They will staff the ANC domicile via displacement of junior crewmembers on other fleets as those fleets are realigned or retired.
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