FreightDawgyDog

Please add to this list below. I have learned more from this board about gotchas in our contract than anywhere else...

Substitution lessons learned that you won't see stand out in the contract (at least not for legalese challenged pilots like me)..

1. If you are assigned a trip anywhere (read the end) of your 72 hour window that starts 4 hours after showtime of your original trip, you have to sit every day of sub availability for those 72 hours. This means you do not get the 72 hours off as described in the contract.

2. If you are unavailable for your initial sub window due to legal rest or being on duty, (i.e. trip you are on is revised and you get back late causing an operational conflict and for you to fly through initial sub window) you mut sit all 72 hours of sub availability instead of getting the initial 72 hours off. If you want OTP in that case, you must elect it prior to the showtime of your original trip that you were subbed for. This means you have to decide pretty much when notified about sub and you can't wait to see if you are assigned anything the next day and then decide.

Any others..?

Dakota

Substitution is a really really bad deal and needs to be fixed. SUB has ALWAYS turned out to be a bad deal for me, usually going from a great trip to something worse than reserve. Remember these three letters O-T-P (decline SUB)! DO NOT let the flesh peddlers have their way with you -- **** 'em! OTP pays @ 125% and your pay protected for the current bid month + 2 months.

R1200RT

I think it's 110% and OTP works great if you have a 6 or 12 hour trip. But it's hard to do with a 40 to 70 hour trip. It sucks not matter how you do it!

fedupbusdriver

From the CBA:

1. A pilot in OTP shall be pay protected for the trip guarantee of his original trip for the remainder of the bid period in which the trip began plus two additional bid periods. The trip guarantee for his original trip shall then be deducted from his first paycheck after the pay protection ends (and subsequent paychecks if necessary).
2. If a pilot is assigned an OTP trip, he shall earn trip guarantee.
3. CH for trips assigned in OTP status shall be compensated at 125% of the pilot’s normal pay rate, except that CH earned for trips assigned in OTP status, which exceed the pilot’s OTP eligibility shall be compensated at 100%.

Example:
A 12 CH trip and a 18 CH trip become eligible for substitution. The pilot holding those trips elects OTP and therefore has an OTP eligibility of 30 CH. The pilot flies a 24 CH trip in OTP status. These CH are paid at 125%. With 6 hours of OTP eligibility remaining, (and before that eligibility expires), the pilot flies a 9 CH trip in OTP status. Six of these CH are paid at 125% and the other 3 CH are paid at 100%.

kronan

As much as SUB sux,

it is better than it is at some airlines where if the trip goes away, you don't get paid for it.

I've had some equipment change trips work out in my favor, and have had buds in similar situations in the pax world scramble to try and find a trip to get the $$ back up.

FDXLAG

What sucks worse than sub is when your trip keeps getting revised, way past the sub window. Anyone remember the Ice Storms and hanging around ops for 12 hours, while they figure out what jets are on the ramp.

Haywood JB

I would say what is worse than that, is when you call skeds and ask them about it, they don't understand the rules or the pay. So let's say you are in the trip that got extended for whatever reason, and as soon as you land you have to either accept it, or reject it. Now if it is better financially to reject or accept, crew skeds will be of no help, nor will any of the folks they transfer you too. Oh yeah, if you are senior like I am(30 from the bottom), the ALPA folks are out of the office

HJB