Search
Notices
Cargo Part 121 cargo airlines

SIG Disputed Pairings

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-09-2007, 06:41 AM
  #1  
Line Holder
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: B-757 Captain
Posts: 38
Default SIG Disputed Pairings

Can anyone help me out and list the MD-11 disputed pairings for this month? I'm having a hard time getting on the union website. or let me know how to look them up elsewhere... thanks..

I've been home on vacation with our 5th child and need to fly before a sim at the end of the month...
Goes211 is offline  
Old 10-09-2007, 07:12 AM
  #2  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Gunter's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,931
Default

MD-11 ANC


Pairing #134 is a one-time only pairing which is being disputed for an initial all-night flight to NRT followed by a continuous rolling body clock and multiple circadian shifts and a very short layover in ALA. This flight operates once on Oct. 10.


MD-11 LAX

None


MD-11 MEM

#314 – This pairing is a 3-leg out-and-back that is scheduled to arrive at 0959 LBT, one minute before the 1000 LBT contractual limit. We believe this is unrealistic due to departure delays in IAH and arrival delays into DFW.


https://crewroom.alpa.org/FDX/Deskto...cumentID=40014
Gunter is offline  
Old 10-09-2007, 12:04 PM
  #3  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Laughing_Jakal's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,336
Default Register

If you register on the ALPA website and give them an email address, they will gift wrap the disputed pairings very nicely in emails to your email address a couple of times a month in the form of the sig letter, then they are the bottom of every message line. Thanks for coming here to get the info. Now it is time to take the next step and sign up on the ALPA website. If you need help....PM me and I will happy to help you through the process.

Regards,
Laughing_Jakal is offline  
Old 10-09-2007, 07:08 PM
  #4  
Gets Weekends Off
 
MaydayMark's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: MD-11 Captain
Posts: 4,304
Default

Originally Posted by Gunter View Post

MD-11 MEM

#314 – This pairing is a 3-leg out-and-back that is scheduled to arrive at 0959 LBT, one minute before the 1000 LBT contractual limit. We believe this is unrealistic due to departure delays in IAH and arrival delays into DFW.

I wondered what happened to this disputed pairing (there are only 2 of them in MEM 11 CAP open time). I was NOT surprised to see that there are many of this trip still unassigned in f/o open time (good job f/o's!). I WAS surprised to see that at least 9 days of these trips are being flown by only 2 Capt's (Apparently for straight time? One of the a former manager!).

No wonder the SIG can't get rid of fatiguing and onerous trips like this!*?
MaydayMark is offline  
Old 10-09-2007, 08:35 PM
  #5  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 122
Default

Originally Posted by MaydayMark View Post
I WAS surprised to see that at least 9 days of these trips are being flown by only 2 Capt's (Apparently for straight time? One of the a former manager!).

No wonder the SIG can't get rid of fatiguing and onerous trips like this!*?
Is that former manager the same Buck that could not make it through 757 training at Delta? He and the Pad got all of their MD time giving each other checks in the Sim. How sad he now has to make up his lost training manager pay by flying DPs. Must have got in over his head planning on sucking the tit for a long time. To Bad, So Sad, Mo Fo!
Lipout1 is offline  
Old 10-09-2007, 09:23 PM
  #6  
Gets Weekends Off
 
HazCan's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: headbanging
Posts: 954
Default

[quote=Gunter;244561]MD-11 ANC


Pairing #134 is a one-time only pairing which is being disputed for an initial all-night flight to NRT followed by a continuous rolling body clock and multiple circadian shifts and a very short layover in ALA. This flight operates once on Oct. 10.




Congrats to ANC crews. This pairing did operate, but with BOTH crewmembers on reserve. All voluntary DP flyers take note, you suck balls.
HazCan is offline  
Old 10-09-2007, 09:27 PM
  #7  
Gets Weekends Off
 
PurpleTail's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2006
Posts: 519
Default

For the most part ANC and LAX pilots get it...and then there is MEM (need I say more )
PurpleTail is offline  
Old 10-10-2007, 03:57 AM
  #8  
...Whatever It Is!
 
MD11Fr8Dog's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,680
Default

Originally Posted by PurpleTail View Post
For the most part ANC and LAX pilots get it...and then there is MEM (need I say more )
But there are MORE guys in MEM that DON'T fly DPs than in LAX and ANC combined! Larger base = more selfish SOBs. If those bases were larger, I bet that they might not seem so differently than MEM.
MD11Fr8Dog is offline  
Old 10-10-2007, 06:27 AM
  #9  
On Reserve
 
Stork's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Posts: 10
Default

how bout we look at percentages? Seems fair.
Stork is offline  
Old 10-10-2007, 07:02 AM
  #10  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: Retired
Posts: 3,717
Default

Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog View Post
But there are MORE guys in MEM that DON'T fly DPs than in LAX and ANC combined! Larger base = more selfish SOBs. If those bases were larger, I bet that they might not seem so differently than MEM.
The year I was based in ANC, very few guys flew DP. Those that did, were talked to. Memphis is a kinder, gentler, place. The corporate culture there is, and has always been, (in my opinion) to "live and let live", and it's in part due to this phenomenon, that guys who continue to fly these DP's, do so with impunity.
Jetjok is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
CaptainGator
Cargo
77
10-13-2007 07:50 AM
Dakota
Cargo
12
10-05-2007 04:55 PM
BigWatchPilot
Cargo
1
08-12-2007 05:52 AM
groggy
Cargo
13
06-25-2007 07:41 AM
Lennon
JetBlue
7
07-29-2005 04:17 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices