Hey Atlas guys.... (UPS)
10-08-2007, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CactusCrew
Isn't Atlas an ALPA carrier ?
Just ask an ex-TWA guy how that ALPA / APA merger worked out for them ...
Just ask an ex-TWA guy how that ALPA / APA merger worked out for them ...
Yeah, but now the shoes on your other foot. That same type of integration would be generous to the Atlas pilots in a UPS buyout.
10-08-2007, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CactusCrew
Isn't Atlas an ALPA carrier ?
Just ask an ex-TWA guy how that ALPA / APA merger worked out for them ...
Just ask an ex-TWA guy how that ALPA / APA merger worked out for them ...
10-08-2007, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyByCable
Yeah, but now the shoes on your other foot. That same type of integration would be generous to the Atlas pilots in a UPS buyout.
How long has the senior ATLAS guy been there?
10-08-2007, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 767pilot
There really is never any precedent in these things. Each side makes their own case based on what will work out the best for them. If they can't figure something out, the arbitrator will figure it out for them.
How long has the senior ATLAS guy been there?
How long has the senior ATLAS guy been there?
The arbitrator would also take into account that most current Atlas pilots are trying to come here before any buyout at the BOTTOM of our seniority list.
10-08-2007, 09:13 PM
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Year End 2006 In Millions
UPS-Total Cash Flow From Operating Activities 5,589,000
Atlas-Total Cash Flow From Operating Activities 146,659
UPS-Net Income 4,202,000
Atlas-Net Income 59,781
UPS-Total Current Assets 9,377,000
Atlas-Total Current Assets 463,879
I really don't see how Atlas plans on paying for the new 747-800 with current income and they do not show the growth in numbers like UPS and FedEx.
UPS-Total Cash Flow From Operating Activities 5,589,000
Atlas-Total Cash Flow From Operating Activities 146,659
UPS-Net Income 4,202,000
Atlas-Net Income 59,781
UPS-Total Current Assets 9,377,000
Atlas-Total Current Assets 463,879
I really don't see how Atlas plans on paying for the new 747-800 with current income and they do not show the growth in numbers like UPS and FedEx.
10-08-2007, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyByCable
The arbitrator would also take into account that most current Atlas pilots are trying to come here before any buyout at the BOTTOM of our seniority list.
10-08-2007, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 767pilot
I'm sure that this argument would be made by the IPA's lawyer, but you have no idea what an arbitrator would do with that information. They do as they please. Anyway, this is all putting the cart way in front of the horse at this juncture
I know, but it's fun to speculate. And besides, Hopefully if this does go down, UPS would just buy the assets and not take the employees.
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