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purple1day 11-06-2007 08:37 AM

Deviation by Train
 
Are the class of service rules the same when deviating by train....Can I book a business class seat on Amtrak, and pay with the corporate card if the length of the trip is 2+16?

MEMFO4Ever 11-06-2007 09:55 AM

Your mileage may vary, but I have always used business class and will continue to do so.

Amtrak tickets and receipts clearly show the upgraded service so there is no doubt that you took an upgrade, but I have never been asked about it and my trips are always about 1-2 hours. I know other pilots that book biz class as well and have not had problems.

Book answer? Who knows, but this has been my experience.

hyperone 11-06-2007 02:56 PM

I upgraded on the Shinkansen bullet train between NRT-TOKYO-KIX with no problem from the audit folks. As long as the ticket is below $200 (of course, anything above $100 needs your manager's approval) I don't think it matters.

MD11Fr8Dog 11-06-2007 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by purple1day (Post 258680)
Are the class of service rules the same when deviating by train....Can I book a business class seat on Amtrak, and pay with the corporate card if the length of the trip is 2+16?

I used to upgrade to First class on Amtrak from Newark Penn Station to Wilmington, DE during deviations to DOV all the time! The upgrade would get me a meal! Good ol' CW was an @$$ about deviation ground transportation, so.....

limo to Penn Station - $45
train to Wilmington - $125
limo from Wilmington to DOV - $94
Not having to deal with CW - priceless

MX727 11-07-2007 06:15 AM

I have taken Amtrak between OAK and SLC several times. Upgraded to a sleeper car and never had a problem.

fecav8r 11-07-2007 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by hyperone (Post 258894)
I upgraded on the Shinkansen bullet train between NRT-TOKYO-KIX with no problem from the audit folks. As long as the ticket is below $200 (of course, anything above $100 needs your manager's approval) I don't think it matters.

Unless things have changed in the last 6 months or so, Trains aren't considered GT for some reason so the $200 limit shouldn't apply.

CargoCan 11-08-2007 11:04 AM

The $100 and $200 limits DO apply to trains. You can submit the request after the fact, just make sure you do it before you submit your travel report.

Also, I've taken Amtrak a few times and always purchased a first class ticket without any problems on trips less than 5 hours. Its still usually cheaper than a plane ticket.

MD11Fr8Dog 11-08-2007 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by CargoCan (Post 260065)
The $100 and $200 limits DO apply to trains. You can submit the request after the fact, just make sure you do it before you submit your travel report.

Sure about that? Have that in writing somewhere? I've never been denied a train ticket at ANY cost over $100 or $200 and have NEVER even asked permission! Until you show me in writing, I am with fecav8r, for good reason! ;)

CargoCan 11-08-2007 02:08 PM

I purchased a last minute train ticket over $100 and forgot to put in a request. When I tried to submit my expense report it limited the amount to $100. It took an email from my ACP to reconcile the expense.

How have you submitted your expenses in excess of $100 without an approval? I'd be more than happy to be with fecav8r too!

boxhauler 11-08-2007 02:38 PM

I was just told yesterday that my 200$ first class train ticket from CDG-CGN did not need prior approval. It's just a deviation expense.

MaxKts 11-08-2007 02:56 PM

Per the CBA:

c. Trains
Travel by train or subway are allowable/reimbursable expenses to the same extent air travel or surface transportation expenses would have been allowable/reimbursable.


Makes it all clear us mud doesn't it? :eek:

MX727 11-10-2007 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog (Post 260070)
Sure about that? Have that in writing somewhere? I've never been denied a train ticket at ANY cost over $100 or $200 and have NEVER even asked permission! Until you show me in writing, I am with fecav8r, for good reason! ;)


Originally Posted by CargoCan (Post 260197)
I purchased a last minute train ticket over $100 and forgot to put in a request. When I tried to submit my expense report it limited the amount to $100. It took an email from my ACP to reconcile the expense.

How have you submitted your expenses in excess of $100 without an approval? I'd be more than happy to be with fecav8r too!

Pre-FOX vs. FOX?

CargoCan 11-10-2007 02:43 PM

Mine was pre-FOX

MX727 11-11-2007 06:17 AM

Hmmmm..... Never had a problem with $300 Amtrak tickets.

MD11Fr8Dog 11-13-2007 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by MX727 (Post 261251)
Pre-FOX vs. FOX?

Pre pour moi!

frozenboxhauler 11-13-2007 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog (Post 262839)
Pre pour moi!

"Je vous salue Marie,..."
fbh


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