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Rottweiler 12-27-2007 11:01 AM

UPS pay raises
 
I just read the IPNN for Wednesday, Dec 26 and it said in the "Sick Bank" topic that 2008 pay raises will go into effect 1/27/2008 for the 2/11/2008 paycheck.

I am on a trip and do not have the contract in front of me and can't remember the link to the union site (I always click a desktop icon from home).

I thought the contractual pay raises went into effect on the first day of the new year, not 1/27

What gives?? We're giving the company a whole month of work in 2008 at 2007 pay rates?

That stinks.

Rott.

1800 RVR 12-27-2007 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Rottweiler (Post 287444)
I just read the IPNN for Wednesday, Dec 26 and it said in the "Sick Bank" topic that 2008 pay raises will go into effect 1/27/2008 for the 2/11/2008 paycheck.

I am on a trip and do not have the contract in front of me and can't remember the link to the union site (I always click a desktop icon from home).

I thought the contractual pay raises went into effect on the first day of the new year, not 1/27

What gives?? We're giving the company a whole month of work in 2008 at 2007 pay rates?

That stinks.

Rott.

The contract states that the Jan pay raises go into effect the first full pay period of that year. That is why the new rates start on 1/27.

Article 12 B.

c. Effective the first pay period after January 1, 2008, the below hourly rates will
apply based upon longevity and seat:

L'il J.Seinfeld 12-27-2007 12:20 PM

"...they got us on that one."

furloughman 12-28-2007 03:37 AM

Just curious, are new hires that have been at UPS for one year able to participate in the sick buyout?

Tigerpilot1995 12-28-2007 04:13 AM

As a first year guy it is impossible to have enough sick time to be bought back. It will take about 4-5 yrs to get to that point, if I remember from Indoc correctly.

pullup 12-28-2007 04:36 AM

Buy back is possible second year based on sick accrual of 5.5hrs per pay period with a max of 108hrs increasing by 10hrs each year of the contract.

ashcroft79 12-28-2007 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by Rottweiler (Post 287444)
I just read the IPNN for Wednesday, Dec 26 and it said in the "Sick Bank" topic that 2008 pay raises will go into effect 1/27/2008 for the 2/11/2008 paycheck.

I am on a trip and do not have the contract in front of me and can't remember the link to the union site (I always click a desktop icon from home).

I thought the contractual pay raises went into effect on the first day of the new year, not 1/27

What gives?? We're giving the company a whole month of work in 2008 at 2007 pay rates?

That stinks.

Rott.

Not trying to call you out but. Really??? Is that you're only worry in life?? You're working for one of the very few companys where after 1st year you can make well over $100,000, and you are complaining that you don't get your pay raise until Feb 1st. If you're not happy with it you can always quit.

FrontSeat 12-28-2007 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by ashcroft79 (Post 287902)
Not trying to call you out but. Really??? Is that you're only worry in life?? You're working for one of the very few companys where after 1st year you can make well over $100,000, and you are complaining that you don't get your pay raise until Feb 1st. If you're not happy with it you can always quit.

that is the wrong attitude to have. These companies make billions, the ceo's make 10's of millions if not more and they nickel and dime the pilots...

these contracts come with a lot of bloodshed and if management is going to hold you to it then you have to hold them to it as well.

there are many of here that are trying to salvage a broken 121 career and every minute and dime counts. Some of us including myself left a cush 150k plus job a year (for many reasons) and maxing out pay and benifits is job #1.

And if you average out the over 100k a year plus the first year pay you do not have much. If I am lucky and fly my ass off I will make 120 next year. Plus the 33 from this year is roughly 75k per year over 2 years. That is a 150k loss from where I was and 75k a year for a widebody pilot is weak weak weak. I did sign up for this course and will put up with it ( for many reasons) but if something is owed to me I am going to grab it. Why let the fat cats who run the show have it?

Freightpuppy 12-28-2007 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld (Post 287488)
"...they got us on that one."

I was thinking the exact same thing.

Freightpuppy 12-28-2007 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by Tigerpilot1995 (Post 287883)
As a first year guy it is impossible to have enough sick time to be bought back. It will take about 4-5 yrs to get to that point, if I remember from Indoc correctly.

2-3 years...getting my first sick check in 2008....hopefully Uncle Sam won't take too much!


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