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Personally, Intra-China is some flying I don't mind giving up. Can you imagine what they would put in the scooby snacks?
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Why so angry at sideshow???? He is just trying to point out some facts to think about....If you don't like his msg...don't respond... PS Sideshow I think you are the BEST of the Simpson's bunch.... |
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Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob
(Post 289652)
Sideshow? Like a carnival geek? I, for one, will not be happy until we not only locked up all international flying...But, all intergalactic flying as well, in our CBA. And, I think that we should be sure that if the company furloughs...That our furloughees are offered positions, driving the FedEx ground trucks. That should be our highest priority in the current talks with management. How's that Bob? Will you go away, now? Or, just start your own thread with all of your warnings for us. |
Originally Posted by Albief15
(Post 289738)
Can't be. That LOA improved our scope, remember?
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Except that flights in and out of ANC still don't have to be flown by ALPA pilots.
That got fixed with the LOA too, right? Scarsam inserted here. |
Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob
(Post 289652)
As for China, have a look at your "scope" clause...
Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob
(Post 289652)
Does your CBA guarantee that all new international flying (ie: intra-China) will be done by those on your list, and if so, how will you enforce it? Since you're banking on China so much it might be of concern.
Frankly, I never have seen how it was enhanced in the LOA, and it's never really been explained in a way that makes sense to me. I believe the logic used has been similar to 'possession is 90% of the law...' or something like that. |
Originally Posted by Purple Nugget
(Post 289957)
Except that flights in and out of ANC still don't have to be flown by ALPA pilots.
That got fixed with the LOA too, right? Scarsam inserted here. |
Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob
(Post 289652)
Does your CBA guarantee that all new international flying (ie: intra-China) will be done by those on your list, and if so, how will you enforce it? Since you're banking on China so much it might be of concern. http://www.dot.gov/ost/ogc/subject/f...eCabotage.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabotage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedoms_of_the_air While a few countries allow it, most don't. That's why we don't fly intra-Canada and the FedEx painted jets up north are operated by Morningstar crews. We fly the freight from the US to Canada, they take it the rest of the way. Intra flying is protected. If we could fly intra-China, then they could fly intra-USA. Do you want to trade that? Do you understand that if that ever comes to pass there will be no more US registered airlines? The airline industry will resemble the ocean shipping industry and most airplanes will have Liberian or Panamanian flags on them, while still be painted in UPS, FedEx, UAL, NWA or Delta colors. |
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Originally Posted by Toccata
(Post 289177)
Does your CBA guarantee that all new international flying (ie: intra-China) will be done by those on your list, and if so, how will you enforce it? Since you're banking on China so much it might be of concern. |
Originally Posted by AerisArmis
(Post 289978)
We do fly intra-China, just not with intra-China freight. I've flown SZX-PEK-PVG in one day. Kinda the same as you don't see Chinese airlines hauling US freight from LA to NYC, but they are allowed to stop at multiple cities to pick up freight. Anything else would have to be negotiated between the two governments concerned and our CBA would carry no weight (pun intended). Just wanted to set the record straight. (actually, this preview looked like you posted SB's comment. Had to delet the 'double quote' showing up at the start of the message.) |
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