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Old 12-28-2007, 06:00 PM
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If min BLG drops to 48 is an Rday worth less than 4.5 now (3?)? Do you sit 15 days at 3 hours pay or do you sit 11 days at 4.5 hours?
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:09 PM
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None of the above. We have a CBA. The questions you ask will have to be negotiatied with FDX ALPA.

My recommendation (not yet on the MEC) would be more lines with slightly less BLG. Numbers discussed in another thread say 3000 hours less in Jan. Divide that by lines...but I dont' think you'll see 48 hour lines. The SIG will get busy.

My input (as a bystander) is that if the BLG goes down the 15/19 R day gets down sized too. No reason to sit R days for 3-4 hours...we just need fewer R days.

The silver lining to all of this should be a bit more time off--for family, military obligations, side businesses, working on college, etc etc.
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I read the CBA before posting, your right it was not spelled out. Another bad deal, say you are junior and in training and can only hold the min blg. Now you are working a full month of training for 48 hours for 2-3 months? And the training was a displacement.
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None of the above. We have a CBA. The questions you ask will have to be negotiatied with FDX ALPA.

My recommendation (not yet on the MEC) would be more lines with slightly less BLG. Numbers discussed in another thread say 3000 hours less in Jan. Divide that by lines...but I dont' think you'll see 48 hour lines. The SIG will get busy.

My input (as a bystander) is that if the BLG goes down the 15/19 R day gets down sized too. No reason to sit R days for 3-4 hours...we just need fewer R days.

The silver lining to all of this should be a bit more time off--for family, military obligations, side businesses, working on college, etc etc.

No sivler lining as The lines cannot Contractually pay less than:

68 hours in a 4 week month
85 hours in a 5 week month

I doubt you will see the lines values change all that mouch as they are already on the lower side of normal averages. I doubt the company will want to buy up lines to any large degree.
We certainly might see fewer Regualr lines and thus more Secondary or Reserve lines.
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Redeye,

The way I read PC's letter was the company is approaching the union for relief on the min BLG. If that is the case, I expect some serious negotiations. I made comments about this on another thread...
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None of the above. We have a CBA. The questions you ask will have to be negotiatied with FDX ALPA.
Why do you say that? The present CBA has provisions for determining R day value, and nothing in there constrains the company to ever put less than 15/19 days on an R-line. When they currently won't allow R-Day drops with a reserve-to-open time ratio of 6:1 and greater, I don't have a lot of hope that manglement will do anything they don't HAVE to in the way of preserving/enhancing what little QOL remains.

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This line from the letter: "Additional changes in BLG levels are going to be required." indicates Albie is right. The company wants to change the current BLG mins. Hopefully the union will show some spine when it comes to negotiations and makes sure an R day doesn't go below 4.5 hours. In other words if RLG drops more than 4 hours R-days should drop from 15-19. Talk to your block rep if you think it will do some good.

Dramatically reducing carryover by moving bid start day to Sunday would also help make sure the hours are adjusted equitably.

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Tell me again about how this is the "right thing to do" please.... I need reassured!
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This line from the letter: "Additional changes in BLG levels are going to be required." indicates Albie is right. The company wants to change the current BLG mins. Hopefully the union will show some spine when it comes to negotiations and makes sure an R day doesn't go below 4.5 hours. In other words if RLG drops more than 4 hours R-days should drop from 15-19. Talk to your block rep if you think it will do some good.

I been through this before a couple of brand x's.

What if the company comes to the Union and says we need to furlough 400 pilots.............but we can avoid this if you agree to reduce MIN BLG by 8 hours (just an arbitrary number I pulled out).

So the Union can show some stones as you put it and say, "no thanks a contract is a contract".

So the company goes ahead and announces the furlough. How are you going to feel at that point? Be careful what you ask for.

Of course having been through this before, if the company is going to furlough they are going to furlough. They just try to gain more concessions before they actually do it.
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Tell me again about how this is the "right thing to do" please.... I need reassured!

Because we have no leverage; no wait that is the wrong hose job. My bad.
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