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MD11HOG 01-11-2008 07:57 AM

FDX MD 11 Captains fill every DP
 
There are some truly rough MEM trips, but the greed is on full display for everyone to see. No wonder 200% worked. The Captains set the tone. Leadership by example, blah blah blah. I got mine. At least there is still a little hope from the FOs .

Micro 01-11-2008 08:19 AM

It is really a sad statement. Kinda makes you want to throw in the towel. I doubt that we (as a union) will ever be able to accomplish anything against the company. Just turn the sodomizer full up now instead of just prolonging the pain (max sarcasm)

jagplt 01-11-2008 09:13 AM

Last month some of the guys linked each filled DP trip on to the DP thread here on the board. A great tool, I used it to check and see who'd flying DP's. Easy way to keep up with who's being stupid.

MD11Fr8Dog 01-11-2008 09:40 AM

I talked two Capts that I know that are on DPs. Both admitted they royally screwed up in the frenzy and grabbed them.

One of the guys, in the end, wrote up a very good letter to the SIG, and cc'd me, about exactly how this trip went and how bad it was! While its no excuse to be picking up trips - no matter how nice the double DH is, and especially for Capts that have been here long enough to know better - he at least redeemed himself a bit and provided the much requested and much lacking feedback the SIG has asked for!

With multiple opportunities to protect ourselves from grabbing DPs - SIG letter, msg line, ALPA calendar with space to write DPs, bidding and trip trading software to highlight (or is it lowlight?) DPs, this msg board - the excuses are getting weaker and weaker to the point that there really are no excuses anymore!

When you see one of your bubbas on a DP, just send him/her a note in a non-threatening email asking, (or ask them in person), using your best CRM typing skills, "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over!":mad:

Purple F/O 01-11-2008 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog (Post 297678)
- he at least redeemed himself a bit and


Sorry Dog. IMO the only way to redeem yourself after picking up a DP is to drop it. Then all is forgiven and there is a lesson learned. If it gets flown, it is at a huge cost to the crewforce. And to answer the impending question, no I don't care if he loses pay because he drops it, it was his mistake.

MD11Fr8Dog 01-11-2008 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Purple F/O (Post 297685)
Sorry Dog. IMO the only way to redeem yourself after picking up a DP is to drop it. Then all is forgiven and there is a lesson learned. If it gets flown, it is at a huge cost to the crewforce. And to answer the impending question, no I don't care if he loses pay because he drops it, it was his mistake.

While I agree, he didn't not learn he had a DP until he was already on it (blame me for not emailing him earlier?:o). Otherwise, I agree 100%!

FR8Hauler 01-11-2008 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog (Post 297691)
While I agree, he didn't not learn he had a DP until he was already on it (blame me for not emailing him earlier?:o). Otherwise, I agree 100%!

I don't buy it either. Not to call your friend a liar, but I can't believe he went that long not realizing it was a dp.

Laughing_Jakal 01-11-2008 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog (Post 297691)
While I agree, he didn't not learn he had a DP until he was already on it (blame me for not emailing him earlier?:o). Otherwise, I agree 100%!

No...not your fault...it is not your responsibility to inform him he had one....it is his responsibiloity for not doing it in the first place...you were doing him a courtesy b y holding him accountable.

Perhaps we should have an "alpa coin" he can put in his pocket and whenever he feels the need to pick up a DP, he can call hils "sponsor" and the sponsor can "talk him down"...12 step DP program.

There is a spot on the ALPA calendar to write down DP's every month.

FR8Hauler 01-11-2008 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal (Post 297699)
No...not your fault...it is not your responsibility to inform him he had one....it is his responsibiloity for not doing it in the first place...you were doing him a courtesy b y holding him accountable.

Perhaps we should have an "alpa coin" he can put in his pocket and whenever he feels the need to pick up a DP, he can call hils "sponsor" and the sponsor can "talk him down"...12 step DP program.

There is a spot on the ALPA calendar to write down DP's every month.

"Hi my name is dip$t and I am a DP flyer."

Everyone, "hi dip$t"

SKYKN6 01-11-2008 10:41 AM

The problem is in MEM. Plz clarify your thread properly.


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