FF,
Thanks for the info. Will keep fingers crossed as my funds dwindle in unemployement, but am still having a good time.

GL,
Moondog

Well, I hope you are correct. What my friend heard from his sim. instructor the other day is that IF there is a system bid (and he thought that's what would happen) then there are close to 140 guys between 60 and 63 (both classic and the DC8).

I do not have the seniority list in front of me so I have no idea if the numbers are correct but he said that probably all those guys would go to the left seat and some to the right seat (not sure why they'd want to?).

If so, the displacement will be "understated" in my view but I hope you are correct.

I know this is all rumors but hey, this IS a rumor board, right? ;)

The only FE's that will be able to displace to the front seat are the 11 in the age range on the 747 Classic. There are over 100 age-eligible FE's in the DC8, but they can only get a front seat by being awarded a vacancy. There will not be enough vacancies for this number to get a Captain award, so that is why they (we) will be going to the right seat also. I don't think there will be enough vacancies to clear out all 100+ to the front seat this year, especially since we are adding to the mix 61 747-Classic front-seaters who will take their front seats through displacement. The overall displacement numbers will be significant, but that is due to the front seaters being displaced, not the FE's.

It will be very interesting seeing what UPS offers up, where all the 747 guys go, and how many DC8 FE's take an upgrade to ANC. I don't forsee any lower 48 vacancies, but if there are a few, they will go very senior, both left and right seats.

I agree with your post, not enough vacancies to clear all the numbers and few to no Capts. added in lower 48. My displacement plan is the right seat in SDF because in a year I will no doubt be on the list. All the front seat 747 classic folks senior to me leave holding Capt SDF in doubt for me as it moves very senior.

From my quick look at the Reference Seniority List after Displacement Bid 07-202, you have over 50 SDF Captains junior to you. If that is correct, you should be able to hold SDF Captain if displaced off the DC8.

I hope so, and am not stressing. 3 things: Lack of retirements this year from left seat, the approx 70 crewmembers senior to me in all seats on the classic 74 that would be able to bid Capt. and the anticipated decrease in DC-8 crews that leaves me in the possible scenario. Hopefully, the new aircraft deliveries will help everyone positively and the 10+ senior F/O's on the 74 decide to stay Professional First Officers (PFO's) <g>

Check Reference Seniority List 07-202. I think there are only 50 classic 74 senior to you (32 CA, 7 FO, and 11 upgradeable FE's) and about 56 Captains junior to you in SDF domiciles.

An FO (not on probation) displaced from the lower 48 could displace a junior ANC FO or downgrade to FE. However, if you are already in ANC, you would have to be on the bottom of the ANC seniority list to get displaced and downgraded, I think. Also, aren't all the bottom ANC FO's on probation? If on probation, doesn't the company just place you where they want to? In that case, UPS could take preferences for those that would rather go to SDF FE than stay as ANC FO.

Very true but what boggles me is that it sounds like you got some crazy break or breaks and you can come on here and say what people "should" have for time? A little ballzy if you ask me seeing it sounds like you wouldn't be competitive right now.

Cuz they can't live within their means?????

Cuz they just can't let go of that 3rd vacation home???

Cuz they just can't sell the 2nd airplane????

Too many ex-wives????

I dunno. :confused: LOL!