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hschol 01-22-2008 09:00 AM

NRT to NGO by Train
 
Any suggestions on how to get to NGO from NRT by train? Highspeed? Gouge?

Thanks
H

UPS1856 01-22-2008 09:16 AM

Have not done that one, but did do Osaka to Kyoto last month to tour the temples. Some of the train lines offer a "tourist" train pass which is much cheaper. I think it was a 24 hour pass. DO NOT tell them you are there working (crew) because you are not allowed to purchase it. Bought it right at the airport.
You can buy 1st class and "coach". Watch the signs when you board.
Use the high speed trains. Our ride was 45 minutes vs 3 1/2 hours.

SabreDriver 01-22-2008 10:52 AM

One could buy a JR rail pass that is good for a set number of days (7 is common) Works on all Japan Rail lines as well as most Shinkansen (bullet trains), but not the private lines in Tokyo/Osaka. Must be purchased as a tourist from the US. I don't recall any paperwork being required. Used to be purchased on line, ticket was good for a set number of days, and it was "activated" upon first usage in Japan. It was cheaper than buying a ticket physically in Japan, unless it was a one time, one way trip on the bullet train.

http://www.japanrailpass.net/eng/en001.html for details and current restrictions

My info could be a little dated, I moved back stateside from Japan in 2005.

hyperone 01-22-2008 11:14 AM

You can go to this website to get the Tokaido Shinkansen "bullet train" schedules - http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2018.html.
The same train that goes to Osaka goes through Nagoya. It is a very enjoyable ride, especially on a clear day. The first class ticket to Osaka from Narita, is just over $200 US with the current exchange rates, but I would imagine it would be under $200 to Nagoya.
I don't know about UPS, but a Fedex guy deviating needs to get a mid-trip deviation approval, approval for ground transportation over $100, and let both the Narita and Nagoya ramps know what they're doing. The Narita ramp will need to prepare a "shore pass" in order for you to legally ride the train (your crew shore pass isn't sufficient).
To get to the train, you take the bus from your hotel to Terminal 1, go to the lowest level, and buy the ticket all the way to Nagoya. As I recall, you'll get a reserved seat in specific car, on a specific train to Tokyo. You'll get to the main Tokyo station and transfer to the Shinkansen. It's a large station, but there were plenty of signs showing how to get to the Shinkansen. Expect about a 30 minute transfer, and again a reserved seat in a specific car, on a specific train.
They give you plenty of announcements on which city is next, and your ticket should show your arrival time (the trains are always +/- 3 minutes). I would also suggest downloading the schedule from the website.
Once your in Nagoya, you will transfer to the local subway system (maybe the Nagoya ramp can help you figure out how to get to the hotel).
Good luck and enjoy the trip.

jagplt 01-22-2008 11:34 AM

gonna be tough to keep up after some saki...... not like the easy train from Frankfurt to Milan.... and 8 hour wine, bread and cheese adventure!

hschol 01-22-2008 12:10 PM

Thanks I am doing the Purple and Orange thing. Going to deviate... Try to get the deviation bank. Accepted fare is around $600. They purchased one for $78. I can't find one for less than $150. So I may take the train. Hope it is a nice day. Thanks for all the info, it really helps out. When I spearhead it, I alway do the wrong thing and it cost me more money... Once again thanks!

SabreDriver 01-22-2008 02:40 PM

Getting around
 
Another good aide I've found for getting around in various cities around the world is a free program for my Palm Treo called "Metro", it is simply awesome. Métro is your free guide on PDA (Palm, PocketPC, Smartphone...) to public transport systems worldwide (more than 350 cities covered now).

Look at http://surf.to/metro or do a google search for Metro and your smartphone operating system name and it should pop right up. You can PM me for details. January/February should be good for the trip, on a clear day, 15 mins out of Tokyo station should be a fantastic view of Fuji-san, pick a seat on the right side of the train, if you buy an assigned seat ticket. Happy deviating:D

MD114Ever 01-22-2008 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by hschol (Post 305194)
Thanks I am doing the Purple and Orange thing. Going to deviate... Try to get the deviation bank. Accepted fare is around $600. They purchased one for $78. I can't find one for less than $150. So I may take the train. Hope it is a nice day. Thanks for all the info, it really helps out. When I spearhead it, I alway do the wrong thing and it cost me more money... Once again thanks!

Based on the information in your post, you get to use the $600 for your deviation bank, not $78 since the original accepted fare in VIPS was $600. Even if this leg were revised and the deadhead went away, the $600 would stay in your bank.

Alot of discussion on this board deals with the situation where the bank is a lower amount than the price FDX actually pays for the ticket. Ex, Deviation Bank = $78, FDX purchases ticket for $600. Even though it's unrealistic and past practice was different, you can only use the $78 in this situation since that was in your bank.

Remember, deviation bank money is yours to use or lose regardless of the actual price FDX pays for a ticket. If the trip is changed and a new deadhead leg is added with a different bank amount, you get to use the higher bank amount from the original pairing or the revised pairing.


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