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Old 01-29-2008, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RAC396 View Post
I don't believe that JL is actively training on the panel, so I find that hard to believe.
JL has his contract admin hat on for about another year. Then we'll see where he is allowed to go. Right now he is safe, hidden away counting his money.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:18 AM
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The job never seemed to be about flying for JL anyway. He rarely flew when he was the CP or the years before when he was in training. I doubt he cares if he can come back up front with a seniority number. He can fly test and he can maintain his pay and ego by doing the special jobs that he has a niche for doing.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:56 AM
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They might be wrong but that's definitely what the management guy said at recurrent last week. That any guys over 60 would have to check out on the panel before being allowed to go on to another seat. Question was brought up what if they intentionally try to fail the S/O course to speed things up and his answer was they they would be done. For what it's worth.
That just doesn't make sense to me. That would negate much of the reduction in training cycles that the company was gaining by canceling the previous bid awards.
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Old 01-29-2008, 06:18 AM
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That just doesn't make sense to me. That would negate much of the reduction in training cycles that the company was gaining by canceling the previous bid awards.
I guess it is a contract deal. And, it will only matter to the guys who turned 60 and didn't go to class (ie faked an illness or something). Most guys didn't work the system and are already checked out as S/Os. GC might have saved time back to the left seat if he had just gone ahead and checked out.
It doesn't make sense but then non of this does.
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Old 01-29-2008, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by R1200RT View Post
I guess it is a contract deal. And, it will only matter to the guys who turned 60 and didn't go to class (ie faked an illness or something). Most guys didn't work the system and are already checked out as S/Os. GC might have saved time back to the left seat if he had just gone ahead and checked out.
It doesn't make sense but then non of this does.
I only know of two, FH and BJ up in ANC. Besides, that's two less secondaries they have to fill for 10 S/O so tng costs are a wash.
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Old 01-29-2008, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MD114Ever View Post
The job never seemed to be about flying for JL anyway. He rarely flew when he was the CP or the years before when he was in training. I doubt he cares if he can come back up front with a seniority number. He can fly test and he can maintain his pay and ego by doing the special jobs that he has a niche for doing.
Are you saying he was "part of the problem"?
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Old 01-29-2008, 12:37 PM
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Are you saying he was "part of the problem"?
I think it means he has a "special" set of skills that mere line toads can't appreciate.
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Old 01-29-2008, 07:33 PM
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As for saving money on training cycles...our s/o instructors are getting paid and not training any new hires. Might as well make the over 60 guys run the gauntlet they caused. The company is still training guys that will be around for longer than 5 years.
As for the FAA, it would really funny to see them pass the critical phase of flight rule. I guess they figure the over 60 guy is ready for a nap after taxing to the runway anyway!
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Old 01-30-2008, 04:48 AM
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I guess they figure the over 60 guy is ready for a nap after taxing to the runway anyway!
In light of the emphasis the FAA is putting on runway incursions, I think taxiing qualifies. They better put a tiller on my side, he's there for ballast.
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by AerisArmis View Post
I only know of two, FH and BJ up in ANC. Besides, that's two less secondaries they have to fill for 10 S/O so tng costs are a wash.
So as I understand what's being said here.. In order for a ND to be returned to the front seat he must first check out as an S/O? Doesn't make sense to me, but I guess it keeps the guys who are "injured", say a shoulder or something.. from playing the system and jumping back into a front seat over those who have played the game as intended...

but if they can't be in the seat together during critical phases of flight... can we expect another change in ALPA policy because it's the "right thing to do?" Somewhere I vaguely remember something about safety being the buzz word.

finally...If you have Captain on your APC profile, does that mean you're exempt from the rule?

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