FDX-contract improvements next negotiations
#11
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: 57 Capt
Posts: 141
Would like to be able to check in for a trip (when deviating) upon "catching up" for the scheduled d/h.
(i.e. trip has a front end d/h MEM-ORD-PVG. i deviate, get to ORD myself and then fly on the scheduled ORD-PVG leg. i can't check in until reaching PVG and most of the time, unless the capt is on the scheduled leg, the ground trans has been canceled and won't be there when i arrive.)
(i.e. trip has a front end d/h MEM-ORD-PVG. i deviate, get to ORD myself and then fly on the scheduled ORD-PVG leg. i can't check in until reaching PVG and most of the time, unless the capt is on the scheduled leg, the ground trans has been canceled and won't be there when i arrive.)
#12
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: 767 FO
Posts: 8,047
Would like to be able to check in for a trip (when deviating) upon "catching up" for the scheduled d/h.
(i.e. trip has a front end d/h MEM-ORD-PVG. i deviate, get to ORD myself and then fly on the scheduled ORD-PVG leg. i can't check in until reaching PVG and most of the time, unless the capt is on the scheduled leg, the ground trans has been canceled and won't be there when i arrive.)
(i.e. trip has a front end d/h MEM-ORD-PVG. i deviate, get to ORD myself and then fly on the scheduled ORD-PVG leg. i can't check in until reaching PVG and most of the time, unless the capt is on the scheduled leg, the ground trans has been canceled and won't be there when i arrive.)
#13
Here are some ideas
There are 2 changes I would like to see in the next contract.
1. Real time open time swaps (ie no human interference) (other airlines like Southwest do this already)
2. Quicker release of the Secondary lines
-Speed
1. Real time open time swaps (ie no human interference) (other airlines like Southwest do this already)
2. Quicker release of the Secondary lines
-Speed
#14
Yes. My scheduled ticket for MEM-MDT 10 Feb is $381. The accepted fare is $326. As soon as I deviate the bank for the trip will drop from $381 to the accepted fare of $326. Been all over the block with CE, they tell me it is a historic problem that can not be grieved. I tell them that NO it is a problem since FOX took over expense reports. The company and CE win I lose.
I haven't seen it play out this way.
What I've seen is the published "accepted fare" in the bid pack is below what the company can actually purchase the ticket for a day or two before the trip because the airlines may have increased the price since the bid pack was published.
The only way the "accepted fare" will go up is if someone on the crew does NOT deviate thus forcing the company to pay the higher fare.
Then the you must show this documentation and get the accepted fare raised for the whole crew.
If no one actually deviates, the accepted fare remains unchanged, even though the company knows they cannot get a ticket back to MEM for that amount.
#17
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: 767 FO
Posts: 8,047
I haven't seen it play out this way.
What I've seen is the published "accepted fare" in the bid pack is below what the company can actually purchase the ticket for a day or two before the trip because the airlines may have increased the price since the bid pack was published.
The only way the "accepted fare" will go up is if someone on the crew does NOT deviate thus forcing the company to pay the higher fare.
Then the you must show this documentation and get the accepted fare raised for the whole crew.
If no one actually deviates, the accepted fare remains unchanged, even though the company knows they cannot get a ticket back to MEM for that amount.
What I've seen is the published "accepted fare" in the bid pack is below what the company can actually purchase the ticket for a day or two before the trip because the airlines may have increased the price since the bid pack was published.
The only way the "accepted fare" will go up is if someone on the crew does NOT deviate thus forcing the company to pay the higher fare.
Then the you must show this documentation and get the accepted fare raised for the whole crew.
If no one actually deviates, the accepted fare remains unchanged, even though the company knows they cannot get a ticket back to MEM for that amount.
Don't know what to say other than the both tickets for my 10 Feb trip have already been bought. Both tickets are $60 more than the accepted fare. When I deviate my bank will reflect (currently reflects scheduled fare) will be reduced to accepted fare. I know this because it cost me $400 in November for 1 GFK ticket. Don't make me post my expense report here.
Here is the discrepancy I filed trying to get my scheduled fare instead of my accpeted fare in Oct:
Discrepancy(Denied) - Discrepancy Reason: Adjust Scheduled Fare Amount
Historical Comments: When I bought my deviation ticket my total bank reflected $630 for this ticket. Therefore, I spent $680 on my deviation ticket (which caught up with the scheduled). Here is a PFC link that says I get the higher of accepted or actual https://pilot.fedex.com/general/exp_...d%20Dev%20Bank
Comments: cannot read email,"Deviation. VIPS accepted fare applies."
Discrepancy(Denied) - Discrepancy Reason: Original Deadhead Fare
Historical Comments: Per the contract 8.C.2.a "The value of the deviation bank shall equal the value of the scheduled deadhead tickets for trips flown" My scheduled DH ticket value was $621. I flew the trip. REF E Ticket 0127179017923.
Comments: cm deviated/published accepted fare applies
My comments are in Blue the auditors are in purple.
Last edited by FDXLAG; 01-31-2008 at 12:14 PM.
#18
I haven't seen it play out this way.
What I've seen is the published "accepted fare" in the bid pack is below what the company can actually purchase the ticket for a day or two before the trip because the airlines may have increased the price since the bid pack was published.
The only way the "accepted fare" will go up is if someone on the crew does NOT deviate thus forcing the company to pay the higher fare.
Then the you must show this documentation and get the accepted fare raised for the whole crew.
If no one actually deviates, the accepted fare remains unchanged, even though the company knows they cannot get a ticket back to MEM for that amount.
What I've seen is the published "accepted fare" in the bid pack is below what the company can actually purchase the ticket for a day or two before the trip because the airlines may have increased the price since the bid pack was published.
The only way the "accepted fare" will go up is if someone on the crew does NOT deviate thus forcing the company to pay the higher fare.
Then the you must show this documentation and get the accepted fare raised for the whole crew.
If no one actually deviates, the accepted fare remains unchanged, even though the company knows they cannot get a ticket back to MEM for that amount.
FDXLAG has is it right. I worked with DT (contract enforcement) too. He said it is a problem we ID'd from the 1999 contract but did not fix in the current contract. He claims the company is not required to have any discernable method of establishing accepted fares and we have no recourse.
I worked with crew audit and they plainly explained the only way to adjust the accepted fare higher is to fly the DH as scheduled. If you deviate it bumps back down. It doesn't pass the logic or smell test but that is how the company is doing it. It has nothing to do with the number of crewmembers deviating.
#19
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Drinking from the fire hose
Posts: 305
Here's a couple on my list:
1. Disruption pay for reserve pilots.
2. NO MOVABLE r-day.
3. Jumpseat protection for reserves inbound to Memphis.
4. Showpay for reserves reverting back to the last contract (should apply to RLG AND leveling.
5. Increase in Per diem (a nickel is a JOKE!!!)
6. Increase in Uniform allowance (same for over 15 years)
7. Increase in new-hire pay ($2000 the same for over 15 years)
8. Fix substitution
It's going to be a BIG list.
1. Disruption pay for reserve pilots.
2. NO MOVABLE r-day.
3. Jumpseat protection for reserves inbound to Memphis.
4. Showpay for reserves reverting back to the last contract (should apply to RLG AND leveling.
5. Increase in Per diem (a nickel is a JOKE!!!)
6. Increase in Uniform allowance (same for over 15 years)
7. Increase in new-hire pay ($2000 the same for over 15 years)
8. Fix substitution
It's going to be a BIG list.
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