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Beagle_Lover 02-05-2008 10:41 AM

Everyone on the property now is holding LAX or JFK. Some new hires will get LAX by the start of 09. Majority of those interviewing now will be in STN.

To those Polaroids bashing its sister company and touting hiring. There should be full disclosure as to why. It is NOT based on growth. No aircraft are on order! It is based ONLY on ATTRITION. You mention the poor contract and it should be mentioned as to why the delay on negotiations, do not blame the Atlas pilot group. The spring arbitrator will decide on an important issue and will shed light on the future of both pilot groups. It is one airline right now but that is not for us to decide.

To those who want to apply to Atlas. It is not a bad company. Contract 08 will improve QOL issues. Do not be scared off by bitter former Atlas pilots or bitter, confused, misinformed Polar pilots. Good luck.

FreighterGuyNow 02-05-2008 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by MaxEPR (Post 314206)
Very true...my last trip before resigning was 21 days on ,3 days off leading in to an additional 17 on.

Plan on this schedule if you go to work at Atlas.

But, then again, I'm bitter, confused and mis- informed ....

MaxEPR 02-05-2008 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by FreighterGuyNow (Post 314550)
Plan on this schedule if you go to work at Atlas.

But, then again, I'm bitter, confused and mis- informed ....

My experience was based on being a Jr. man based out of STN. Like any airline.... life is better for the more Senior. Not bitter or confused:)

GBU-24 02-05-2008 05:35 PM

Is anyone living in STN? If so does the complany "help" with a COLA or getting your stuff over there? If you live in the UK how would the QOL be?

Polarfr8dog 02-06-2008 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by Beagle_Lover (Post 314542)
To those Polaroids bashing its sister company and touting hiring. There should be full disclosure as to why. It is NOT based on growth. No aircraft are on order! It is based ONLY on ATTRITION. You mention the poor contract and it should be mentioned as to why the delay on negotiations, do not blame the Atlas pilot group. The spring arbitrator will decide on an important issue and will shed light on the future of both pilot groups. It is one airline right now but that is not for us to decide.

To those who want to apply to Atlas. It is not a bad company. Contract 08 will improve QOL issues. Do not be scared off by bitter former Atlas pilots or bitter, confused, misinformed Polar pilots. Good luck.

Hold on a second there quick fire. . . there is a lot of bashing on both sides of the fence. I, nor Springer have done that. The Polar contract IS better for QOL issues. No questions asked. The only thing I will say is that a battle star pin shouldn't have been issued for the Atlas side concerning the strike. Only to those that supported it. You and I both know that there were SCABS that crossed.

As far as the delay in negotiations: Why should we allow senior Atlas Pilots to go with a buyout of Polar IF and only IF it would happen. We wanted five year lock your MEC said no; Prater said meet half way and your MEC still said no. It's all about protection of the certificate. DHL didn't by 49% of Atlas now did they? The company said that they wold bargain scope prior to a merger and now they won't. Once again, it's all about protection.

Sorry for the hijack you are now returned to your regurlarly scheduled programming!

FliFast 02-06-2008 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by Whaledriver101 (Post 314226)
3 weeks on and 1 week off !!!!! And they actually find guys to do that???

Not everyone is fortunate enough to be gainfully employed at a stable carrier.

I'm glad to be employed at UPS.

Good Luck Atlas guys with "The Ocho"

FF

posted later...Thanks alvrb...I'lll take a look...cheers.

alvrb211 02-06-2008 09:15 AM

Hi FliFast,

Check post below relating to a screen height of 15ft.

AL

alvrb211 02-06-2008 09:18 AM

Hi FliFast,

I just noticed you rquested a source for the reduced screen height a while back.

It's under Part 25.113 of the e-CFR's

www.gpoaccess.gov/ecfr/ - 44k


AL

Whaledriver 02-06-2008 12:38 PM


You and I both know that there were SCABS that crossed.

Sorry, no Polar planes flew + no Polar call signs flew = no scabs. You and your MEC have been told this over and over and you still don't get it. Atlas guys crossed your picket just like UPS guys did, that stay at the same hotel in ANC, to fly their own planes and their own contracts. You ONLY scream SCAB at Atlas guys, selective hatred eh....

Your MEC and the Polar pilots were given the opportunity to present your alleged stack of evidence to the ALPA Board investigating the SCAB accusations. One guy showed up with hearsay. Makes you wonder about the integrity of the accusers?

Sorry guys, I have to respond to this BS whenever it shows its ugly face...

Worldguy 02-06-2008 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Whaledriver (Post 315326)
Sorry, no Polar planes flew + no Polar call signs flew = no scabs. You and your MEC have been told this over and over and you still don't get it. Atlas guys crossed your picket just like UPS guys did, that stay at the same hotel in ANC, to fly their own planes and their own contracts. You ONLY scream SCAB at Atlas guys, selective hatred eh....

Your MEC and the Polar pilots were given the opportunity to present your alleged stack of evidence to the ALPA Board investigating the SCAB accusations. One guy showed up with hearsay. Makes you wonder about the integrity of the accusers?

Sorry guys, I have to respond to this BS whenever it shows its ugly face...

Did you just say that UPS and Atlas scabbed Polar, just not using Polar call sign?
Just asking.....

WG


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