UPS Anchorage -400
02-14-2008, 05:18 PM
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UPS Anchorage -400
In every group there is one who is willing to dive on the grenade. Today it is me.
What is the best way to fly the -400 in Anchorage. I want to be back up there by fishing season. I lost out on a bunch of days on the river this summer in Louisville.
If I just put it in my system preference, is that different than keeping my current aircraft #1 and putting the -400 #2. I do not quite get the difference as it pertains to coming back to Louisville in a few years/move package/displacement rights/etc. One last part: When does the training move to ANC?
A little help please for a UPS guy willing to take one for the team.
Fish Alaska
What is the best way to fly the -400 in Anchorage. I want to be back up there by fishing season. I lost out on a bunch of days on the river this summer in Louisville.
If I just put it in my system preference, is that different than keeping my current aircraft #1 and putting the -400 #2. I do not quite get the difference as it pertains to coming back to Louisville in a few years/move package/displacement rights/etc. One last part: When does the training move to ANC?
A little help please for a UPS guy willing to take one for the team.
Fish Alaska
02-14-2008, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggs
If your displaced you get move package number 1, look up details in the CBA, its good but, only a one way paid move and you have 12 months to complete it and no contract on the time you have to stay up there.
All dates referenced in the contract are effective dates, not actual move or training dates. See pages 182 and 183 (Article 12) of the hard copy for details.
02-15-2008, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by FrontSeat
What month and year were you hired?
And I want to know if you are senior to me ...
You could take my place in ANC if you like. I expect it when the Classic Whale displacements begin ...
Later, Brown CC
02-15-2008, 05:07 AM
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Frontseat:
I am junior to ALL classic F/O. Nice pilot group. I rode a few J/S with the classic guys and they are great.
Browncow:
We had a beer at F Street a couple of weeks ago. My wife and I talked about it and that was a great place to live and we want to go back.
I am junior to ALL classic F/O. Nice pilot group. I rode a few J/S with the classic guys and they are great.
Browncow:
We had a beer at F Street a couple of weeks ago. My wife and I talked about it and that was a great place to live and we want to go back.
02-15-2008, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by fishalaska
Frontseat:
I am junior to ALL classic F/O. Nice pilot group. I rode a few J/S with the classic guys and they are great.
Browncow:
We had a beer at F Street a couple of weeks ago. My wife and I talked about it and that was a great place to live and we want to go back.
I am junior to ALL classic F/O. Nice pilot group. I rode a few J/S with the classic guys and they are great.
Browncow:
We had a beer at F Street a couple of weeks ago. My wife and I talked about it and that was a great place to live and we want to go back.
02-15-2008, 06:05 AM
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[QUOTE=Biggs;320658]
If you want this put ANC MD or 400 in the last slots of your system equipment pref bid list.
Why put it last??? I heard if I put my current A/C #1 is guarantees me displacement rights, but put what you want #2. Is this not the case??? What happens if I put -400 #1. Does this mean I have requested the transfer and therefore can only come back to an original vacancy to the lower 48?
Fish
If you want this put ANC MD or 400 in the last slots of your system equipment pref bid list.
Why put it last??? I heard if I put my current A/C #1 is guarantees me displacement rights, but put what you want #2. Is this not the case??? What happens if I put -400 #1. Does this mean I have requested the transfer and therefore can only come back to an original vacancy to the lower 48?
Fish
02-15-2008, 07:42 AM
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[QUOTE=fishalaska;320869]
Fish,
As long as you list your current seat in your system pref bid first, then the only way you will move is if you can't hold your current seat any more (that is you will only move if you are displaced).
If you list the ANC 747 first, and you are not seat locked, you normally could get it - however with the very senior SO's bidding back to the front, I doubt anyone over about 150 will get any awards. The displacement that will likely follow will be the thing that moves the junior folks.
Bid what you want in the order you want it.
Also, with the current brown contract, you can bid for a seat only if you get a move package - read the directions that come out with any bid.
Hope that helps, and good luck,
Freig8t Dog
(I may be up there with you depending how the next few bids go.)
Originally Posted by Biggs
If you want this put ANC MD or 400 in the last slots of your system equipment pref bid list.
Why put it last??? I heard if I put my current A/C #1 is guarantees me displacement rights, but put what you want #2. Is this not the case??? What happens if I put -400 #1. Does this mean I have requested the transfer and therefore can only come back to an original vacancy to the lower 48?
Fish
Why put it last??? I heard if I put my current A/C #1 is guarantees me displacement rights, but put what you want #2. Is this not the case??? What happens if I put -400 #1. Does this mean I have requested the transfer and therefore can only come back to an original vacancy to the lower 48?
Fish
As long as you list your current seat in your system pref bid first, then the only way you will move is if you can't hold your current seat any more (that is you will only move if you are displaced).
If you list the ANC 747 first, and you are not seat locked, you normally could get it - however with the very senior SO's bidding back to the front, I doubt anyone over about 150 will get any awards. The displacement that will likely follow will be the thing that moves the junior folks.
Bid what you want in the order you want it.
Also, with the current brown contract, you can bid for a seat only if you get a move package - read the directions that come out with any bid.
Hope that helps, and good luck,
Freig8t Dog
(I may be up there with you depending how the next few bids go.)
02-15-2008, 09:20 AM
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Per an email from ManPower Planning, you want to list:
1) 757 SDF (If that's what you are on)
2) 747 ANC
Was advised if you WANT ANC, drop Manpower Planning an email saying you want to go. (I don't know why this matters but maybe someone else can chime in).
They also said displacement bid was coming Feb 26. (They did NOT give insight to numbers just a date)
With the commute and no end in sight for RSV, looking forward to it as well.
Looking for insight on Package 1. Anyone had an issues with moving company/cars or tickets up to ANC? Smooth move or nightmare?
Was the 3-yr contract issue ever resolved to include the 747-400 or has it just remained for the MD-11?
1) 757 SDF (If that's what you are on)
2) 747 ANC
Was advised if you WANT ANC, drop Manpower Planning an email saying you want to go. (I don't know why this matters but maybe someone else can chime in).
They also said displacement bid was coming Feb 26. (They did NOT give insight to numbers just a date)
With the commute and no end in sight for RSV, looking forward to it as well.
Looking for insight on Package 1. Anyone had an issues with moving company/cars or tickets up to ANC? Smooth move or nightmare?
Was the 3-yr contract issue ever resolved to include the 747-400 or has it just remained for the MD-11?
02-15-2008, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by UPS1856
Was advised if you WANT ANC, drop Manpower Planning an email saying you want to go. (I don't know why this matters but maybe someone else can chime in)
Not sure who told you this....but it's not true! Read the contract. If your seniority holds a seat, then it does just that....you stay where you are, in your current seat...IF you cannot hold that seat then they look at the next seat on your sys pref list and see if your seniority can hold that....then on down the list.
If you are at the bottom of the list somewhere and there is a displacement, i.e. 74 classic, and they choose to move to your seat then they move you to where the openings are at....i.e. ANC....Manpower has NOTHING to do with this one...
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