UPS System Bid 08-101
#1
UPS System Bid 08-101
Should read System Bid 08-101
20 74y Cpt Anc
31 74y F/o Anc
13 Md11 F/o Sdf
-7 747 F/o Sdf
-17 747 S/o Sdf
-3 757 Cpt Sdfz
-8 Md11 Cpt Sdf
-3 757 Cpt Ont
-6 747 Cpt Sdf
20 74y Cpt Anc
31 74y F/o Anc
13 Md11 F/o Sdf
-7 747 F/o Sdf
-17 747 S/o Sdf
-3 757 Cpt Sdfz
-8 Md11 Cpt Sdf
-3 757 Cpt Ont
-6 747 Cpt Sdf
Last edited by Charlie Murphy; 02-26-2008 at 05:14 AM.
#2
Good numbers Charlie ... Thanks ...
Systemwide numbers:
64 vacancies (20 74Y Capt, 31 74Y FO, 13 MD11 FO)
44 displacements (eventually all fleets most likely)
Let the System Bid Games begin !
Systemwide numbers:
64 vacancies (20 74Y Capt, 31 74Y FO, 13 MD11 FO)
44 displacements (eventually all fleets most likely)
Let the System Bid Games begin !
Last edited by CactusCrew; 02-26-2008 at 06:17 AM. Reason: dyslexia with numbers
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It's actually worse than it looks. 20 Capt 74Y vacancies and 45 Capt displacements on the other fleets = net loss of 25 Capt positions system wide.
Then factor in the 17 747 FE's who definitely will get another shot up front, not to mention the DC-8 FE's who can hold 74Y Capt.
Bottom line - you can figure a minimum of 45 current Capts losing their seat, potentially more. The ripple effect is going to be enormous.
If you're junior, I hope you have a very understanding spouse. Gonna be ugly around here for a very long time!
Then factor in the 17 747 FE's who definitely will get another shot up front, not to mention the DC-8 FE's who can hold 74Y Capt.
Bottom line - you can figure a minimum of 45 current Capts losing their seat, potentially more. The ripple effect is going to be enormous.
If you're junior, I hope you have a very understanding spouse. Gonna be ugly around here for a very long time!
Last edited by IPAMD11FO; 02-26-2008 at 07:42 AM. Reason: typo
#6
What are they trying to say about the engineers? I can't seem to figure that one out. Are they going to let the 63-65 747 engineers bypass bid, but not the -8 guys? And they're only going to let the -8 engineers upgrade at the company's discretion?
All I can say is.... no one come to the bus! The schedules are crappy and the plane is really really screwy. And don't forget the tail could fall off at any moment!
All I can say is.... no one come to the bus! The schedules are crappy and the plane is really really screwy. And don't forget the tail could fall off at any moment!
#7
It's actually worse than it looks. 20 Capt 74Y vacancies and 45 Capt displacements on the other fleets = net loss of 25 Capt positions system wide.
Then factor in the 17 747 FE's who definitely will get another shot up front, not to mention the DC-8 FE's who can hold 74Y Capt.
Bottom line - you can figure a minimum of 45 current Capts losing their seat, potentially more. The ripple effect is going to be enormous.
If you're junior, I hope you have a very understanding spouse. Gonna be ugly around here for a very long time!
Then factor in the 17 747 FE's who definitely will get another shot up front, not to mention the DC-8 FE's who can hold 74Y Capt.
Bottom line - you can figure a minimum of 45 current Capts losing their seat, potentially more. The ripple effect is going to be enormous.
If you're junior, I hope you have a very understanding spouse. Gonna be ugly around here for a very long time!
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What they are saying is that if you are an 8 s/o you better bid for the open ANC slots now, or you may never make it back up front. They may be parking some eight's but they are not displacing off of it. So, get your capt. slots now old timers on the eight, because it may be a while before any vacancies come available.
I may add that nobody knows what is going to happen in a displacement. Too many variables to look at to guess what is going to happen. All I can say is that UPS has just made life and quality of life more difficult for I would guess 2/3 of the pilots. The next few years around here are not going to fun.
I may add that nobody knows what is going to happen in a displacement. Too many variables to look at to guess what is going to happen. All I can say is that UPS has just made life and quality of life more difficult for I would guess 2/3 of the pilots. The next few years around here are not going to fun.
#9
What they are saying is that if you are an 8 s/o you better bid for the open ANC slots now, or you may never make it back up front. They may be parking some eight's but they are not displacing off of it. So, get your capt. slots now old timers on the eight, because it may be a while before any vacancies come available.
I may add that nobody knows what is going to happen in a displacement. Too many variables to look at to guess what is going to happen. All I can say is that UPS has just made life and quality of life more difficult for I would guess 2/3 of the pilots. The next few years around here are not going to fun.
I may add that nobody knows what is going to happen in a displacement. Too many variables to look at to guess what is going to happen. All I can say is that UPS has just made life and quality of life more difficult for I would guess 2/3 of the pilots. The next few years around here are not going to fun.
Only 2/3 's unhappy ... ? Who's the 1/3 that will be happy when it is over ?
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This is the not the only number we should be worried about, as I described above.
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