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Airsupport 03-20-2008 02:44 PM

ALPA question for the FEDEX guys
 
so i got my bi-weekly email from alpa and there was an interesting article titled "dont make the same mistake we did". it was referring to fedex going with their own union and losing all the benefits and expertise that alpa has to offer. they had 3 pilots give their opinion about it so i was just wondering how the guys on here feel. if you could go back would you let alpa stay? how long did they represent you guys? any thoughts on bringing them back? not trying to start an alpa push or anything. actually my post is far from it. just wanting to see if the majority of you guys feel the way these three pilots did.

http://mmslb.eonstreams.com/alpa/Fed...h_HQ_audio.wmv

FDXer 03-20-2008 03:05 PM

Out of the three pilots--two were/are block reps and one is a MEC Vice Chairman. What do you want them to say? Seems pretty one-sided if you ask me.

Personally, I'm glad we got rid of the FPA and went back to ALPA. The two things I would like to see is our MEC recalled and the current President of ALPA thrown out. Two many personal agendas and not enough majority representation.

MX727 03-20-2008 03:13 PM

Airsupport,

Based on your question and the way you phrased it, I want to make sure that you understand that FedEx was ALPA, left ALPA and we returned to ALPA approximately 9 years ago.

You won't find many that wish we were still FPA. It was just a necessary stepping stone in the evolution of unionizing the FedEx crewforce.

Airsupport 03-20-2008 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by MX727 (Post 345032)
Airsupport,

Based on your question and the way you phrased it, I want to make sure that you understand that FedEx was ALPA, left ALPA and we returned to ALPA approximately 9 years ago.

You won't find many that wish we were still FPA. It was just a necessary stepping stone in the evolution of unionizing the FedEx crewforce.

see i didn't know that. i just got the message today so i thought it was a "current" topic. yeah i was starting to wonder what he was talking about when he said the fedex pilots were being payed poorly.. :) although i am sure we could all agree that we would like a little more

AerisArmis 03-20-2008 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by FDXer (Post 345025)
Out of the three pilots--two were/are block reps and one is a MEC Vice Chairman. What do you want them to say? Seems pretty one-sided if you ask me.

Personally, I'm glad we got rid of the FPA and went back to ALPA. The two things I would like to see is our MEC recalled and the current President of ALPA thrown out. Two many personal agendas and not enough majority representation.

Amen brother!

FlybyKnite 03-20-2008 03:52 PM

They should have also included the link to this FedEx Pilot Group at A Glance article (PDF file) from the Sep 2005 ALPA magazine. It is a pretty good snapshot of our checkered past.

MoneyMan 03-21-2008 10:44 AM

The FPA was in part controlled by former "NO UNION" members, and very influenced by Flight Management. More importantly, they had limited experience and resources. FedEx and the bastion of lawyers would have bankrupted FPA in a matter of time. There is no way it could have survived the constant disputes, negotiations, and grievances that were occurring.

highflyer 03-21-2008 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by MoneyMan (Post 345505)
The FPA was in part controlled by former "NO UNION" members, and very influenced by Flight Management. More importantly, they had limited experience and resources. FedEx and the bastion of lawyers would have bankrupted FPA in a matter of time. There is no way it could have survived the constant disputes, negotiations, and grievances that were occurring.

And it was never intended to be a lasting union either. When I offered to help MA on the FPA version of family awareness, his reply was, "Oh, we won't be needing that." The goal, as I heard later, was to shut the FPA down a year after they took the reins from ALPA. Then we rebelled, like the petulant, ungrateful children we are... ;)

MacMan 03-21-2008 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by MoneyMan (Post 345505)
There is no way it could have survived the constant disputes, negotiations, and grievances that were occurring.

....were occuring?

PCNUTT 03-21-2008 01:09 PM

Yes, this is where it is professed from the highest roof tops, "And they all lived happily ever after."


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