pnh2atl

Are the MD-10 and MD-11 common categories at FedEx? If so, have they done a good job making them common enough it is pretty easy to fly both? Do they have any landing requirements for each type? If not, never mind.

Nick

FedEx1

Same type rating, same plane, no special requirements except for differences training. At least, that's what they tell us. It doesn't FLY the same for sure. And of course I can't fly the DC-10, and I am NOT typed in that plane.

TonyC

Except for the differences that are summarized in the 3-inch thick Volume 3, the MD-10 is identical to the MD-11. [/sarcasm]









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RedeyeAV8r

[QUOTE=TonyC]Except for the differences that are summarized in the 3-inch thick Volume 3, the MD-10 is identical to the MD-11. [/sarcasm]



Same airplane? Starts different, Flys different.......Lands different......climbs different............

let's see 103 differences in the manual as I recall.........but it is exactly the same right??..................NOT

pnh2atl

For a while we had different versions of the same equipment and the differences were way to many to remember. I guess as long as they don't make them part of the oral it is okay. I would imagine you guys have a bunch of different cockpit layouts too since you have picked up a plane here and there along the way.

Nick

MD11driver

FedEx actually did a pretty good job in standardizing the MD-11 cockpits...the only real differences I've seen is the placement of the weather radar/ACARS printer...but nothing earth shattering.

The MD-10s are all the same...they pretty much re-did the entire DC-10 cockpit, so they could make them exactly the same.

As far as flying differences? Well, there are those that say our MD-10 accident in Memphis may have been exacerbated by the crew not flying the MD-10 a whole lot.

Personally, in the past 2.5 years, I've flown the MD-10 MAYBE 10 legs?? Out of 200+ legs total?? And most of those were during IOE...

Landing is critical...different techniques (not officially taught, of course...because it's a common type-rating and lands just like an MD-11 right? ) . If you land it like an MD-11, you'll smack it on...kinda sounds like the MEM accident, eh?

Flea Bite

How can one tell the diff. between an MD-10 and DC-10 when looking at them?

Sasquatch

Look at the nose, you'll see lettering that says MD-10.

TonyC

Until the Type Rating ride, there is a pretense that the MD-10 does not exist. Therefore, no MD-10 specifics are covered in any of the testing, oral or otherwise. The Differences consists of CMI and two simulator events, including 3 takeoffs and landings. If they land the same, pray tell why do we need "3 and 3"?!?!!?






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TonyC

On the top of the fuselage, the ventral antenna is located above the wing root on the MD-11 and the MD-10. The same antenna is located above the cargo door on the DC-10.


The Outflow valve on the DC-10 consists of three doors or panels. (Left side of fuselage, below main cargo door.) On the MD-10, the Outflow Valve is replaced by the MD-11 type, single door.


On the right side... On the DC-10, the back of the Flight Engineer's panel can be seen through the right, aftmost window. On the MD-10, there is no FE panel.


And, as has been mentioned, "MD-10" is painted on the nose of the MD-10s on both sides.






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