FDX Bid question
 

I'm new at the excess bid, so I don't fully understand this. The FCIF shows on the B727 30 cap and 50 F/O and S/O to be excessed. Where are they supposed to go if there are only a total of 95 vacancies?

dude..they go where they can hold!!!....this is a massive shakeup...the senior guys in these seats get to go where they want and end up pushing junior guys out of the bottom in seats that will be excessed....or they just go to seats that are absorbing them in which noone should be excessed(according to the posting)....there are only 95 vacancies but many seats will be absorbing the excesses...

OK, so if everyone keeps moving down, where do those already at the bottom go. What I'm thinking is if you are already a junior F/O or S/O on the Boeing, where would you go if there is basically no place for you to go.

Also, does anyone know if an early retirement option discussed with the Union. Something that would let those close to retirement leave without any penalty.

Re-read Cassels message that goes with the FCIF. He specifically says no furloughs will result from the excess bids.

He is referring to a situation where fewer than 50 727 SOs bid out. Those at the bottom will go nowhere under this bid. He is hoping to entice them to go to HKG though.

I know it is being discussed. I'm thinking it wil be very modest if it goes anywhere. Remember, our training department has a lot of fixed costs and adding a small number of students is relatively cheap. In fact, students allow new instructors to get trained up as guys move back to the line. Without students the training department suffers.

My bet is the company will wait until a few old dudes make it thru training first.

They need to excess 727/SOs so J Lewis and his comrades get their captains seats back.

So here's another question for you guys. An over-60 friend of mine, who had gone to the back of the 727, wasn't senior enough on the last bid to get back to a wide body captain's seat. Realizing that, he bid and was awarded, the right seat of a wide body, to which he has just started training. I'm now wondering if he'll be allowed to move to the left seat of his choice, seniority considered, because he's technically still a 727 S/O (and they're excessing 50 of them), or will the company only allow him to bid for normal openings, based on this current bids vacancies, ie. MEM 757 Capt/FO or HKG Bus F/O.

JJ

According to the Q&A section for the posting, that person is not being excessed. So no, they couldn't, unless I guess they could get it as a secondary, which probably isn't going to happen.

Q. I am a DC10 Second Officer that was awarded B757 F/O on Posting 08-01. Am I considered to be part of the 08-02 excess?

A. No, the pool of pilots that are considered to be part of the excess only include:

Pilots in a crew position that is declared in excess who do not have an award to a different crew position at the time of the publishing of the excess posting.
Pilots who have an award to the crew position declared in excess and have not yet activated in such awarded crew position.

More like scare them in to bidding HKG. Don't do it; it's not worth it! Get another hobby while you sit reserve until the next bid. SG

Correct, one could say that the Company is a better chess player than the >60 crowd. The "canceled" bid was not to cow to their needs, but more of a way to flush these guys excess rights down the drain. In theory a guy who is an >60 SO and did not bid in the last bid will be able to "leapfrog" the guys senior to him that bid as Jetjok's friend and find themselves in a CA seat ahead the other >60 guys. make sense ?