Does FedEx Ship Animals?
 

I mean household pets like dogs, cats, ferrets, goldfish. How much does it cost? Would I take my loyal canine to a Kinko's? Will the FO be obligated to go feed and water my son? Does size matter? Do you do horses or llamas?

Of course it does. You are into some weird stuff:eek:

Nope! Sorry! Not pets. We have done horses, cattle, sheep, whales, pandas, polar bears, military dogs, beagles/chicks and other med research animals (:(), bugs, etc.... Usually arranged through a third party or special contract (there are animal shippers that use FedEx and other carriers) - ie. the general public can not just drop off an animal at the local FedEx station! ;)

I was under the impression the general public CAN ship animals with us since we started carrying the USPS' live shipments. Seen an awful lot of live bees, chickens etc. being shipped overnight from Joe Farmer in one state to Jack Farmer in another... Not sure that's how I'd entrust an animal I really wanted to arrive alive though.:eek:

:D Try this: http://www.continental.com/web/en-us...s/default.aspx

We ship animals, but usually only in the cockpit. Come to think of it, they are usually the ones operating the aircraft.:D The civilized ones, like: horses; whales; chickens; roosters; some lab animals (other than the aforementioned ones that ride in the cockpit); and every once and a while, sheep and cows, ride in the back.

"Live Chicks" is ramp-agent-speak for SNAKES ON A PLANE! :eek: It just sounds a lot more benign!

They are being shipped through the USPS (third party??), NOT FedEx! They Just end up on a FedEx plane!:p

It (he? she?) just told you it liked you, them same as when it told you size doesn't matter, it was just being nice! ;)

LIES, I knew it was all lies!! (sob...sniffle)

Just curious, but how does this work? I was New Zealand last year and a FedEx crew was DH'ing down there as well. I asked what they were doing, they said they were there to pick up some horses and take them to L.A. It was just after boxing day if people are able to correlate.

But anyway, I'm guessing that if they were carrying the horses, they had to carry a trainer/handler as well? If FedEx is not allowed to carry a JS'er international despite CASS, how can they carry a handler that more than likely is not in CASS. Also, what if the handler is not from the U.S.?

Two weeks ago, a gorilla from MCO to DWF zoo via MEM. Apparently, their smell is real bad. Glad the Airbus got it.

I've had airplanes full of ostriches, cows (several times), 5 rhinos (going to Disney Orlando), horses, lots of baby chickens ...

If my memory serves me correctly, the sharks for the movie JAWS were sent via FedEx. We also found a baby snake on a plane one night, the plane was inbound from China, so, no telling what it was, turned out to be a baby boa, better that that some other posionous snake . . . definately got our attention.

Horse handlers accompany the animals, there are not jumpseaters. Lots of documentation goes with these flights. Not sure about a non US citizen, but it is probably ok. They do not ride in the cockpit.

Ryan International used to play a big role in transporting race horses when they operated cargo 72s. Not sure about now though. I just remember seeing cargo weight and balance loading charts set up for horse pallets. It takes into account things like feed, supplies, handlers, etc.

Well, there's lots of documentation that can go along with a jumpseater as well.

Besides, on a widebody aircraft, wouldn't the jumpseater also not be riding in the cockpit?

But yeah, the logic makes sense. It's probably "ok" to let a foreign horse handler on board the aircraft behind the door, but not a U.S. airline pilot who has been subjected to a 10 year background check and has information in a database to verify his identity. Whenever I used the JS privilege on a passenger carrier I was "behind the door" also.

Don't get your panites in a bind. I'm NOT flaming you, or your company. Just seems weird that with all we went through after 9/11 to get the JS's back as well as CASS, that somebody who is not even a U.S. airline pilot nor in the CASS system, nor an employee of FedEx is allowed to be on board the aircraft.

Handlers do not ride on the jumpseat in the cockpit, they ride on seats in the cabin! Jumpseaters usually ride in the cabin too, unless we are full or there are no seats in the back, ie. MEL'd inop or crew rest airplane.

I'm with you on not being allowed offline jumpseaters internationally. I'm not sure of the exact reasons, but something about CASS limitations? The handlers we have are pretty much known entities, kind of like known shipper stuff that gets some stuff streamlined. We had issues with handlers right after 9/11 and access to the cockpit/cabin, etc. We had some Captains deny these folks from boarding. It will get you some touch questions to answer as these contracts are very high value and lucrative. I think now the company contacts the Capts involved ahead of time to make sure there won't be any issues.

Anyway, I wish we could take offline pilots internationally, maybe someday!

RIGHT, I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT FULLY! Just like when an offline JS'er rides on a widebody aircraft domestically.

The reason I heard, was that it has to do with a security requirement that FedEx and UPS choose not to comply with. Even though the cargo/ACMI's that operate under part 121 do. Thus, allowing offline JS'ers to ride on international flights.

Yeah, pilots aren't

Me too. I'm not flaming you either S. Just perplexed at the irony of the whoel deal.

I foresee FDXer giving me another lame "infraction" for discussing JS procedures even though ALL this stuff is common knowledge that has been discussed ad nauseum.

dojetdriver,

Agree with you, no flame taken.

Dojet,
The bottom line is Fedex makes mucho dinero moving animals over the ocean. They can make things happen when $$$ are involved. JS do not make money, hence your answer. A sorry set of affairs, but reality.

Nah, heard that it was actually an over 60 silver back on break from MD-11 training. :D

My two pesos,

Ship it via the airlines, tickets are still cheap and good to know that woofie made it when he gets dropped off in baggage claim at destination.

That being said, I used to ship dogs before flying (yes I was a pimp, but not a puppy farm pimp) and dogs don't do all that great in the belly of the plane. If it can fit under the seat, pay the money rather than put woofie in a dark cold compartment that scares the living dog mess out of them.

FF

Said in my best Elephant Man voice: "I am not an animal!":D