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Old 02-16-2006, 02:15 AM
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Ok so you are saying they would furlough new hires. Who would they get to fly the planes? The over 60's would be furloughed due to lack of equipment. They could not furlough nrw hires because the over 60 guys can't take their seats.
What I am saying is that you cannot furlough out of seniority.
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Maybe so, but you can bet that they will not be paying folks to sit around because of excess eng....wait a minute, we do that now!!

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Just speculation on my part but first of all, I don't think all of the retreads will retire when the contract settles. Many live in SDF and have nothing better to do with their time. They will be getting paid a lot of money to do little work.

Secondly, I doubt UPS is that short sighted. I'm just guessing, but it's likely the new contract will have some kind of fence or incentive language to prevent or preclude all of the over-60 guys from leaving at once.

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Maybe, but I guess the only way to know for sure would be to ask them what their intentions would be. What are they saying over on the bar and grill?

As far as fencing them into staying after the contract, that's impossible. You can't force somebody to work that is ready to retire. But your suggestion about some sort of incentive in the new contract is interesting. What would your idea be for this incentive. Maybe some sort of severance package that could be canceled on a one for one basis as new FE's are trained starting with the most junior, over 60, FE? Or they could just promise (in writing) them full retro pay if they leave now in an orderly fashion.
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Old 02-16-2006, 01:44 PM
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What would your idea be for this incentive. Maybe some sort of severance package that could be canceled on a one for one basis as new FE's are trained starting with the most junior, over 60, FE? Or they could just promise (in writing) them full retro pay if they leave now in an orderly fashion.
Like I said. I'm just guessing.

I can let you know more when we have a TA.

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Old 02-17-2006, 10:21 AM
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Sorry so late in this but I have been on the road. Waiting is good. I waited 4 weeks for my letter. It was dated, but mailed out 8 days later. My present employer new before me. Now I am just waiting for a CLASS DATE!! Been here a long time........
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Old 02-17-2006, 12:30 PM
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Was the letter sent via USPS or UPS?
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Old 02-17-2006, 12:34 PM
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PAX2,

Was the letter sent via USPS or UPS?
UPS hardly ever sends anything to employees (or perspective employees) via UPS.

It'll come USPS.

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Old 02-19-2006, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondZ
Well, on the 3rd week from the interview with no word yet, hopefully that means more pilot hiring. Now if the contract could get settled.....
DiamondZ,

It took 6 weeks to get my letter. I also received an email that week explaining that the USPS lost some of the letters, and HR wanted to let me know that I was in the pool.

Don't get too excited if and when you get your "pool" letter. My interview was over a year ago, I guess that tells you how well I did.

On the other hand, a guy I know interviewed in November, and was in class last month. It helps to be one of the Chosen Few.

Good luck
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Old 02-19-2006, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by EDPM
UPS hardly ever sends anything to employees (or perspective employees) via UPS.

It'll come USPS.

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If they used Fedex, you wouldn't be having this discussion!
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Old 02-23-2006, 01:33 AM
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Wigwags,

Been in the pool over a year myself. So don't feel bad.

DZ.

Don't put life on hold for the class date. I did and it $crewed things up for me!!
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