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03-15-2006, 08:58 PM
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Boeing screwed the pooch from about 1998-2004 by riding on their reputation and expecting that people would buy their aircraft over Airbus. In that time, Boeing was cancelling programs like the sonic cruiser and giving big stock dividend payments while Airbus was selling planes at rediculous prices and adding all kinds of incentives like manufacturer product support. They were also investing in new aircraft designs. However, they started going wrong by banking too much on the A380.
Boeing finally woke up when Airbus ended up on top. They dusted off the sonic cruiser and other programs, and developed an aircraft that will sell well in the 787. As frequency increaces this is the route that most of the world will go. The number of 757s, 767s, and A330s already prove that this is a needed segment and all of those models are a minimum of 20 years old. While Boeing is creating new models the best Airbus can do is a rehashed A330 with some enhancements.
Long term, Boeing is in the better position in my humble opinion.
Boeing finally woke up when Airbus ended up on top. They dusted off the sonic cruiser and other programs, and developed an aircraft that will sell well in the 787. As frequency increaces this is the route that most of the world will go. The number of 757s, 767s, and A330s already prove that this is a needed segment and all of those models are a minimum of 20 years old. While Boeing is creating new models the best Airbus can do is a rehashed A330 with some enhancements.
Long term, Boeing is in the better position in my humble opinion.
03-15-2006, 10:19 PM
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Really??
Originally Posted by Pilotpip
. The number of 757s, 767s, and A330s already prove that this is a needed segment and all of those models are a minimum of 20 years old. .
The A330/340 entered service in the early to mid nineties just ahead of the 777, and is nowhere near as old as the the 757/767 which was a 70's program, although many 767 pilots say the later -300's are world's different than the older a/c. Haven't flown one though, so I couldn't say.
04-26-2006, 02:50 PM
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CHICAGO (AP) - Boeing Co. rode the momentum of its commercial airplane business to a strong start to 2006, posting 29 percent higher first-quarter profits and overcoming a sub-par showing by its defense business.
Two years to the day after launching plans for the fuel-conscious 787 jet, Boeing announced results Wednesday that reflect continuing lift from two less-ballyhooed standbys -- the 737 and the 777. Commercial airplane revenues jumped 48 percent, and its operating margins increased by an impressive 10 percent.
The world's No. 2 commercial jet manufacturer served evidence that last year's banner year of 1,022 orders, while unlikely to be duplicated, was no aberration as it tries to catch rival Airbus SAS. Boeing booked 176 orders -- 54 of them for the still-in-development 787 -- in the first three months of 2006 and now has a backlog of $132 billion, more than double that of a year ago.
Seems like Boeing is doing pretty good afterall.
Two years to the day after launching plans for the fuel-conscious 787 jet, Boeing announced results Wednesday that reflect continuing lift from two less-ballyhooed standbys -- the 737 and the 777. Commercial airplane revenues jumped 48 percent, and its operating margins increased by an impressive 10 percent.
The world's No. 2 commercial jet manufacturer served evidence that last year's banner year of 1,022 orders, while unlikely to be duplicated, was no aberration as it tries to catch rival Airbus SAS. Boeing booked 176 orders -- 54 of them for the still-in-development 787 -- in the first three months of 2006 and now has a backlog of $132 billion, more than double that of a year ago.
Seems like Boeing is doing pretty good afterall.
07-11-2006, 08:58 AM
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Airbus saw orders drop 58 percent during the first half of 2006 amid production problems that created a one-year delay in its A380 superjumbo program.
The European jet builder booked 117 orders during the first six months, compared with 276 for the same time period last year. Deliveries improved to 219 from 189 during the same time period.
Rival Boeing Co. (NYSE: BA) claims a total of 480 airplane orders through July 5.
Airbus failed to book any new orders for the A380 and only 13 for the A350, the airplane that Airbus is developing to battle Boeing's 787 Dreamliner, which will be assembled in Everett.
Only 100 A350s have been sold so far, compared with 350 Boeing 787s. Airbus officials are expected to unveil a new design to replace the A350 at the upcoming Farnborough Air Show.
Airbus has struggled as news surfaced about wiring problems that caused delays for the A380, which will seat 555 to 800 passengers. The superjumbo's first delivery has been postponed a year.
The delay also led to the resignations of Gustav Humbert as Airbus chief executive and Noel Forgeard as co-chief executive at European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co.
The European jet builder booked 117 orders during the first six months, compared with 276 for the same time period last year. Deliveries improved to 219 from 189 during the same time period.
Rival Boeing Co. (NYSE: BA) claims a total of 480 airplane orders through July 5.
Airbus failed to book any new orders for the A380 and only 13 for the A350, the airplane that Airbus is developing to battle Boeing's 787 Dreamliner, which will be assembled in Everett.
Only 100 A350s have been sold so far, compared with 350 Boeing 787s. Airbus officials are expected to unveil a new design to replace the A350 at the upcoming Farnborough Air Show.
Airbus has struggled as news surfaced about wiring problems that caused delays for the A380, which will seat 555 to 800 passengers. The superjumbo's first delivery has been postponed a year.
The delay also led to the resignations of Gustav Humbert as Airbus chief executive and Noel Forgeard as co-chief executive at European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co.
07-12-2006, 04:21 PM
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Maybe you should relax a little.I know young guy´s are cocky, but you are only focusing on 2006. Airbus actually outsold Boeing for the past 3-4 years.
So 2006 isn´t so good,tough: their sales will go up again,Boeing aircraft are good, but Airbus is far ahead technologically, and that is a thing to consider as well.And please no more talk about subsidies, it´s boring and it is done in the US as well.
Maybe you should relax a little.I know young guy´s are cocky, but you are only focusing on 2006. Airbus actually outsold Boeing for the past 3-4 years.
So 2006 isn´t so good,tough: their sales will go up again,Boeing aircraft are good, but Airbus is far ahead technologically, and that is a thing to consider as well.And please no more talk about subsidies, it´s boring and it is done in the US as well.
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