Recent FedEx ALPA MEC Resolution
05-05-2008, 07:15 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by md11phlyer
No they are not the same. Yet this administration can be lumped together as both "Right-Wing" and "Fascist" due to their corporatism and blind nationalism.
PM me your email and I'll send you a good tax study on the 3 candidates. I think you'll find that the differences are very subtle.
PM me your email and I'll send you a good tax study on the 3 candidates. I think you'll find that the differences are very subtle.
Blind nationalism---I could only wish---this administration has proven to practice big-time globalism vs. blind nationalism. I feel extremely lucky we don't already have foreign pilots and airlines flying between US cities.
05-05-2008, 07:36 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by hamfisted
Conservative, Liberal or Libertarian.......this resolution by our MEC accomplishes nothing in the big picture. It is simply a way for our MEC to try to "make up" for blatantly ignoring their constituents when it REALLY mattered. The Age 65 issue significantly did long term damage to the career development of most, if not all, pilots under 55 yet they now try to throw us a bone and tell us they wouldn't support a candidate at the national level. What they are in reality saying is..."This time we would be scalped if we didn't listen to the results of the polling data". Should we say "thank you Fedex MEC" for finally listening to us??
Who cares about the political process anyway. They are all just rich folks out for their own gains anyway. No matter who is endorsed or elected we will all continue to lose.
05-05-2008, 08:18 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by hamfisted
Conservative, Liberal or Libertarian.......this resolution by our MEC accomplishes nothing in the big picture. It is simply a way for our MEC to try to "make up" for blatantly ignoring their constituents when it REALLY mattered. The Age 65 issue significantly did long term damage to the career development of most, if not all, pilots under 55 yet they now try to throw us a bone and tell us they wouldn't support a candidate at the national level. What they are in reality saying is..."This time we would be scalped if we didn't listen to the results of the polling data". Should we say "thank you Fedex MEC" for finally listening to us??
So I guess it's too late and the horse has left the barn. I guess in the future there'd be nothing FedEx ALPA (and more specifically, the FedEx MEC) could do to make you happy. Oh well, it's too bad, because judging by your post, you've got more than a few more years here. You might rethink your opinion, if for no other reason than hating an organization, and letting it grate on you for a long period of time is bad for your health.
05-05-2008, 09:45 AM
#24
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Originally Posted by hamfisted
Conservative, Liberal or Libertarian.......this resolution by our MEC accomplishes nothing in the big picture. It is simply a way for our MEC to try to "make up" for blatantly ignoring their constituents when it REALLY mattered. The Age 65 issue significantly did long term damage to the career development of most, if not all, pilots under 55 yet they now try to throw us a bone and tell us they wouldn't support a candidate at the national level. What they are in reality saying is..."This time we would be scalped if we didn't listen to the results of the polling data". Should we say "thank you Fedex MEC" for finally listening to us??
05-05-2008, 09:53 AM
#25
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Originally Posted by pinseeker
So, if the FDX MEC had fought age 65, it would not have gone through? This is about the 200 over 60 guys who are now able to go to a left seat if their seniority allows it. The MEC did do the right thing just like they are in stating they will not allow the bottom 200 guys to be furloughed. The over 60 guys seniority is no less important than the guy who is concerned about a furlough. If you start sacrificing one segment of seniority, then the box has been opened and we all need to watch out to see if we are next. We all got hired knowing it is a seniority based system, the top guy has it great and the bottom guy waits until it is his turn.
05-05-2008, 09:54 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by pinseeker
We all got hired knowing it is a seniority based system, the top guy has it great and the bottom guy waits until it is his turn.
The MEC SHOULD HAVE listened to it's pilot group and voted against the rule change. THEN, if it passed, they could have pushed the seniority angle to get DW's buddies back into the left seat because it was the right thing to do.
05-05-2008, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Piloto Noche
Yea, and we also all got hired knowing Age 60 was it and you were gone! Now the bottom guy can wait another five years.
05-05-2008, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AerisArmis
I guess we could have had a vote to see whether, we, the dues paying members, wanted DW to alter the wording to include the over 60 group. Then, of course, he could've "done the right thing" and voted the wishes of the unwashed masses who pay his salary. Nah.....that's a lousy idea.
05-05-2008, 11:48 AM
#29
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No....not ALPA...our MEC
Originally Posted by Jetjok
Ham,
So I guess it's too late and the horse has left the barn. I guess in the future there'd be nothing FedEx ALPA (and more specifically, the FedEx MEC) could do to make you happy. Oh well, it's too bad, because judging by your post, you've got more than a few more years here. You might rethink your opinion, if for no other reason than hating an organization, and letting it grate on you for a long period of time is bad for your health.
So I guess it's too late and the horse has left the barn. I guess in the future there'd be nothing FedEx ALPA (and more specifically, the FedEx MEC) could do to make you happy. Oh well, it's too bad, because judging by your post, you've got more than a few more years here. You might rethink your opinion, if for no other reason than hating an organization, and letting it grate on you for a long period of time is bad for your health.
All I'm saying is that this specific issue is nothing more than a paper tiger that our MEC is using to try to convince us they can and will make a stand in "our best interests". I support ALPA and am not, as you depict me, someone who "hates an organization". I am not going to be hoodwinked on such a trivial issue when I have no faith that this MEC will not at some point in the future go against the desire of the "vast majority" of their constituents beause "they know best". Please don't try to throw me into an inaccurate category you feel more comfortable dealing with me from.
05-05-2008, 11:50 AM
#30
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Originally Posted by pinseeker
I've got an idea. Why don't we take a vote requiring anyone who has been a widebody capt for more than 5 years to have to down bid so that all of us that can't hold it right now can get our chance to get a high five. Once everyone has made 5 years pay at widebody rate, then we go back to the old seniority system.
Please tell me this is not a serious response about such a serious issue.
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