darby78

If you book a jumpseat in 'personal' status do you still have the no-fault protections in the event the flight diverts, cancels, etc ? Assuming you meet the other parameters (13+30, and 1+30). The contract references 'staging jumpseat', but if you're jumping in from somewhere other than your hometown, you can only book in P status (even though you are effectively 'staging' to work). I realize you could get bumped up to 3 business days prior, but after that you should be as protected from being bumped as much as 'staging' status...

Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with this. I'd like to make it to a family event, but if I have to go home just to jumpseat in I won't be able to make it and keep the FX trip. Thanks for any thoughts on this...

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JollyF15

I pers J/S to and from work all the time and I've been told there is no protection.

Jetjok

One little known perk of booking business jumpseats (when you're authorized to do so) is that, if for whatever reason, you don't make the jumpseat, the penalty period is only 24 hours, not the one month of a staging jumpseat miss.

MaydayMark

I agree ... if you're not in your staging city, why not just book "business" class?

Jetjok

I thought you had to be traveling in lieu of a company-paid dead head ticket for you to travel under "business class". Is that not true? Or at least in lieu of using bank money to purchase a ticket to get to or from work.

MaydayMark

JJ, I think we're saying the same thing? I asked once what the definition of "business jumpseat" was, and was told, "any flight the company would have purchased a ticket for." So ... I've always justified any work related flight if I had a deviation bank as Business travel. Does anybody have a more "official" definition?

FDXLAG

CBA 8.C.1.ii.

A pilot may book a Company jumpseat as all or part of
his deviation travel. A pilot booking a jumpseat for the
purpose of a deviation shall be considered in business

jumpseat status.


And

25.BB.J.2.a. Sig Members

and

20.F.4 Grievance witness

Jake Speed

Per former 727 ACP R*** T**S email dated 18AUG05. Note paragraph 2.


Since jumpseating is such an important part of our travel plans to/from work, I feel a few points need to be clarified to help you in your planning.

1. Cockpit jumpseats are still available to "staging" and "business" class jumpseating crewmembers, with the Captain's approval. No changes from before in getting the Captain's permission and notifying Jumpseat Administration.

2. Any crewmember jumpseating to/from trips within 3 days of those activities are allowed to book seats as "business". So, even though you may be jumpseating from Aunt Millie's home in Seattle to Memphis and your prism address is Bangor, ME, you may book and fly as a business class jumpseater. You must have an activity within 3 days of that travel.

3. Staging is travel to/from your prism listed address. You may list 2 staging airports if they are within 100nm of your prism address: JFK/EWR, ONT/LAX. On the flip side, if you live in Leavenworth, KS you may not list MCI and OMA.

These three items may be of some help when making plans with jumpseat administration until our personal jumpseat status is reinstated. Please be courteous and patient when dealing with our jumpseat receptionists. If you have a jumpseating issue, please contact your ACP for help.

R*** T***, B-727 ACP

fdxflyer

I have no written documentation, but I remember an email or fcif that said any js is protected as long as it meets the duty times in the contract. Part of the reason was that on full flights, people ask for capt permission to ride (in the cockpit) and that is also not "staging." FWIW

Jetjok

Jake,

Good job in keeping that email from the ACP. That could be someone's get out of jail free card.

Thanks.

JJ