FDX MEC Leadership change
 

Any truth to the rumors of people going to "dues checkoff" until there is new leadership in the #1 position of the MEC?

The right message? Wrong time?

How much longer do we have with this guy?

This would be a bigger message to mgmt than to the MEC.

Probably, but the question I was asked during this topic discussion was how do we send a message to the MEC leadership that we're not happy with him... I mean them.

The standard block rep answer doesn't seem to work.

All your MEC officer terms expire next summer. The current chairman indicates he will not run again. The MEC block reps will vote (I think in the spring--forgive me I'm still new...) on the new officers.

You do not get to vote directly for these positions as members. However, you can certainly make your input known. I know there is a certain feeling that your input doesn't matter, but if you are in my block or LEC I will of course take your input and use that in the decision process.

Currently we are discussing getting out and doing more meetings with the membership, and informing everyone about the process and encouraging your involvement will be part of what I want to do. I will certainly discuss this over lunch with folks anytime you want...

ok. one more time.... who are you guys again? :rolleyes:

Albie, I would like him removed prior to next summer. He used our dues money to cause our pilot group to fracture. He does not deserve to be allowed to step down! The return on our dues investment demands his removal, not retirement.

Second, DW should allow SS and JA to approach the company with a buy out package.

Third, management needs to consider no training after 60 as the ICAO rule intended. If you are 59.8, then your current seat is your seat until you are 65. If you are over 60 and want to return to the cockpit, passover pay for the seat your seniority holds and you stay put. If your seat goes away, welcome to the training department. These are the most experienced guys, why not let all of us grain from their experience twice a year and during upgrade? No re-training costs, passover for over 60 and experience gained by all in the SIM. Also, an added benefit for the over 60 crowed, prolonged life by reducing the demands of flying all the time. Maybe we could all live to see 68. I suspect it is not about the money as you indicated earlier, Albie. I am sure it is about ego and wanting to have a window seat back. Selfish attitude that is only hurting our company and dividing the pilots.

Fourth, with 700m write down for FedEx Kinkos rebrand to FedEx office and tax bill of up to 300m per year for 2004-2007, FedEx is looking to save money. This is the prefect time to DW to "do the right thing" and try and fix the situation he created.

Remove him or "make him do the right thing"

DW doesn't know what the right thing is, if he did he lost sight of it a long time ago.

Makes sense to me.... why let him exit as MEC Chairman.. why not exit as recalled MEC Chairman. Keep's the chances of a national reward down.

Sad thing is, if he flipped a coin he would've got it right 50% of the time. Way up from zero percent.

True but I think he can influence things a little more than that. He has run his course and done a lot of good, which now is being overshadowed by some poor, painful decisions of recent. I think there is a time to bow out gracefully. He needs to do it.

hmmmm
 

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DW ("Dee W") sounds like GW ("Gee W")

Both good guys....patriots...guys I voted for and supported enthusiastically

Both have made a heck of a lot of good decisions and led us through some critical moments....we owe a lot to those times and have benefited from their actions.

Both have failed to follow a path that their "core support" wanted them to follow....(GW...immigration, etc, DW....age 60 and retroactivity)....leading to potentially devastating consequences unanticipated (by them).

GW will be leaving in January.....I think next summer is too long for DW.

Republicans went to Nixon and persuaded him to "do the right thing" and he stepped down.....perhaps it is time for the block reps to gather and hold an intervention and wield similiar influence.

A recall effort wouldl be fracturous at best.....DW stepping down....not so much. Perhaps that would be "the right thing to do"


On a side note, all along I forecasted similiar results of the retro and I was told by a plethora that they thought this scenario was far fetched. Like the FDA's and everything else, the response to the excess scenario was "don't worry, it would go senior". The next person that tells me that is tempting me to throw up on their shoe.....even if it is regarding holding 777.:D

I have thought for a while they would continue to excess they would put the lowest seniority guys in the cheapest seat (i.e. 727 plumber) to minimize costs and contain the excess there....but after reading BoyCaptain's remarks, I believe he hit the nail on the head perfectly. The junior seat by definition is the seat that is not bid voluntarily by anyone on the seniority list. In this case, it is now HKG F/O.

They may allow an excess (via those that "bid to relieve excess" ) in HKG (the new Junior seat). While they can't excess to an FDA, (the purpose being to avoid moving guys back), they may allow a "voluntary overage in anticipation of future staffing", or increase the number of vacancies near the end of the excess iterations. WB Nuggets may prefer to commute to those DDH HKG lines vs 727 S/O seats. The expansion capability in HKG will be then built-in, thus negating the necessity to improve the LOA and post another HKG bid. If they ever need more HKG CA, then those already stuck over there for their term will jump at the chance to go CA and they don't have to move anyone else there. This would also solve the "over 60 ICAO" issues we have talked about. They'll need more F/Os.

Without the Excess, the junior guys aren't forced to make the decision, they could just stay put in ANC or their direct hire 727 F/O seat. Now they will have to consider the pain of HKG or the pain of 727 S/O without passover.

While it is grotesque, it is a shrewd move by the company.

Even more grotesque is that the ND's whose only option to go left/right seat was HKG, will now be able to "back out" on successive excess iterations, thus allowing them to reclaim previous seats and never have to go to the HKG seat that was the only available one they could hold.

The predictions that we will only stagnate for 3 years not 5 were wrong. Even if it was only 3 years, that stagnation will only start after we absorb the 3-5 years of reverse seniority when we re-absorb the ND's. Thats when the clock gets hacked. First 3-5 years backward, then 3-5 years stagnation.....so for about half the list, we are looking at anywhere between a 6-10 year "hit". Not only is that a lot in lost potential wages, but it is a heckuva lot of B-fund accrual. :mad:

Mother of All Reverse Bids (MOARB)

Disclaimer: No switches were flipped in the creation of this post.

If we let him stay until next summer he can be rewarded for all his fine Union work with a National position. Make him be a line bubba again for a while so he can get a greater sense of what the firestorm he created with his "I know better than those 68% malcontents will ever know."