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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
(Post 427653)
Just to close the loop. It was supposed to be a RAT. After a call CRS and crew control, I was removed and re-assigned as a RAT. I'll turn a 73 CH trip into 91 CH with a phone call anyday.
:rolleyes: I'm sure scheduling was just about to call and get that straightened out - they only made the change two weeks ago. I should have been a little more patient. Thanks for the help everyone. AD Just out of curiosity - on your pay summary, what pay code does it have for that trip now? If it is any of the following: Trips held in the following pay codes are eligible for disruption pay: TRP, AST, SOF, SWP, M/U, MUV, MUD, MUS and CIA Trips held in the following pay codes are eligible for extra duty period pay: TRP, AST, SOF, SWP, M/U, MUV, MUD, MUS and CIA you might be eligible for some extra - yours is probably RAT, so not eligible (just a guess). at least you get the 125% which ain't bad. just to keep in my bag of clues for next time this happens to me. thanks. |
Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
(Post 427653)
Just to close the loop. It was supposed to be a RAT. After a call CRS and crew control, I was removed and re-assigned as a RAT. I'll turn a 73 CH trip into 91 CH with a phone call anyday.
:rolleyes: I'm sure scheduling was just about to call and get that straightened out - they only made the change two weeks ago. I should have been a little more patient. Thanks for the help everyone. AD |
Originally Posted by AFW_MD11
(Post 427861)
Yeah, they were just about to change it for you when you called......:rolleyes:
Just out of curiosity - on your pay summary, what pay code does it have for that trip now? . I'll be buying beers for the F/O who emailed me with the heads up. Based on the euro rate maybe one of us will get a buzz off $2500 in beer. :D Off to Deutschland Morgen. |
TRP --> AST, if within CBA rules
otherwise, TRP --> SUB --> RAT |
Originally Posted by KnightFlyer
(Post 428810)
TRP --> AST, if within CBA rules
otherwise, TRP --> SUB --> RAT i've had SON (swap on) when I traded a trip out of open time, but never had SOF? and while we're at it, what's SWP? anyone know where these codes are defined? (they're not defined in the CBA that I could find?) |
Go to FDX ALPA website,
under quick links, click on "newhires"(left side of page) click on "New Hire Guide"(right side of page). It's not every code that I've ever seen...But, it's pretty good. or Appendix A: CMS Codes Following are some codes that are used in the various crew management screens. The meanings may vary slightly depending on which screen you’re viewing. AHI: Assigned High Minimums ALO: Assigned Low Minimums ARP: Airport Replacement Pay ASN: Training Trip/Line Check AST: Assigned Same Trip AVA: Advanced Volunteer Assignment BLG: Bid Line Guarantee BMP: Bumped from trip with pay CAR: Carryover CIA: Assigned trip to make up lost carry in conflict credit- with pay CIC: Carry in conflict- without pay CON: Council meeting - removed with pay CXL: Trip canceled/rescheduled - removed with pay DED: Deviate Draft DEM: Deviate Makeup DEP: Deviate Per Diem Only DER: Deviate Reserve DES: Deviate Substitution DEV: Deviate Scheduled DIF: Death in family DIS: Disciplinary - removed without pay DRF: Draft/Reverse Seniority DRP: Dropped trip - removed without pay DVL: Deviate Volunteer EMG: Personal Emergency - removed without pay IPF: International Pay Flown JRY: Jury duty - removed with pay LGL: Illegal for assignment - removed with pay LOA: Leave of absence M/U: Make Up MGT: Management crew member - 16 hr duty w/o pay MUE: Make Up Emergency MUS: Make Up Sick N/S: No Show NOQ: Not Qualified PDO: Per diem Only PRJ: Special Projects RER: Removed from trip without pay RMG: Removed by management with pay RPA: Per Diem only plus displacement pa RSV: Reserve SCK: Sick leave S/P: Show Pay SKR: Sick for PDO bump SOF: Swap with open time SPC: Special Projects - removed from trip with pay SWP: Swap with another pilot TNG: Training away from base TOD: Training on day off TRN: Training. Used for IOE - paid credit hours as training pay. Or, removed for recurrent training, with pay. VAC: Vacation VLT: Volunteer XRP: Removed to reassign pilot |
What happens if you turn down a RAT trip? Are you then able to elect OTP?
I have a trip in August which has been extended 24 hours but have not been notified of anything. I do need to drop this trip rather than fly it because the day it extended into is a day I need off. P.S. Yes, I have been reading the contract, but I'm not a lawyer. |
Excellent!! Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Seasick Sailor
(Post 429020)
What happens if you turn down a RAT trip? Are you then able to elect OTP?
I have a trip in August which has been extended 24 hours but have not been notified of anything. I do need to drop this trip rather than fly it because the day it extended into is a day I need off. P.S. Yes, I have been reading the contract, but I'm not a lawyer. Then CRS is supposed to notify you and "Offer" you a RAT. At that time you have the option of accepting or declining. If you decline you are pay protected fo 2 Bid periods but will need to make up time. If you decline and accept OTP, you go into open time (Good Luck) and try to find another trip. Then you go to Make up tab and check OTP. You are supposed to get head of the line priviledges for that trip. As previously Stated, OTP pays 125% but you get no further Contract protections, Disruptions, Xtra duty pay etc. The problem is CRS often tends to speed up the process. If your Origninal Trip is Cnx or revised outside contractual parameters, CRS just drops the trip and immediately assigns you a RAT trip which is often the very same trip with subtle differences. Often the crew members nevers knows this occurs until he/she checks VIPS. I personally never check VIPS once I get next months schedule! Crew schedules is really supposed to Call you and tell you that your Trip has been Cancelled and notify you that you are in SUB, If they have a RAT trip already waiting to assign you, they are Supposed to aks you if you want it? Contractual Grey area seems to allow VIPS as a secondary notification, but I rarely check VIPS or my Schedule once I get it. Theoretically, if you were assigned a RAT trip and CRS never called you and you never checked your schedule, you could decline said trip one hour prior to departure when you preformed your check in an were "Notified" Via Vips. Long winded but hI hope this answers your question. |
Thanks Redeye,
Your explanation does help, but do I have to pick up an OTP trip at the same time that I declined the RAT trip or can I pick up OTP makeup trips over the next two bid periods. I want to have my ducks in a row before I call CRS. BTW, I never was notified even by VIPS and the trip shows a pay code of TRP. |
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